Map Truble / bug.

[Symatrix Hill]

I notice many times i got truble to track new town who i get from blueprint and stuff. Sometimes many of my town dissapear and some of the town never popps upp agen.

Last time i find a military blueprint from Lost Armouer and i search and search almost one houer before i give upp and now i need to go to the Wikie to track it upp and there i find it on the topp of the last map you working on and there it is on topp line to the lefth.

But as you know that do not fix the issue because that town and many other town do not wanne popp upp agen so basically i lost al those spott and another thing to is when i find a new blueprint on a town i do not have on my map then the game say : You have this town / and as you know that town never popp upp on my map and know i probably lost that town on the map forever.

And another thing to - i do not know how many houer i have waste on the map only to track new destination i never find and other destination i happend to find and that is not so ok so you may changes some mechanics on the map to make it work and make it much better and much more easy as tracking destination new and old ones.
Fix that issue and you make many player happ and that`s for sure :-)

I gonne add one very nice link i find on wikie lather on this post here and then you may know what i am talking about ,-)

Very very nice game by the way and take care , well sorry my english also ,-)


Add this link : http://kenshi.wikia.com/wiki/World_of_Kenshi

[Murata]

I ve never had any map trouble. Perhaps zoom in on the map to see small cities / locations

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

can you provide screenshots of this?
as there has been no reports of disappearing towns on the map.

[GrumpyDave73]

Originally posted by Murata:

I ve never had any map trouble. Perhaps zoom in on the map to see small cities / locations

this is what it sounds like to me as well.
if you zoom out a bit far smaller towns/ruins/camps will not show.
the zoom on the map needs to be in enough for the stuff to show-up. it's just how it is.

[Symatrix Hill]

Originally posted by Murata:

I ve never had any map trouble. Perhaps zoom in on the map to see small cities / locations

Well afther al those waste of houer i spend to track cities who is not there , pl dude the first thing i learn me was to Zome the map.
And if you do not got any problem whit the map then that dosent mean or expect everyones else gonne runn the map smoothly as your game ,-)

I also happend to have a computer who is overpowered to any game at this stage out in this world and i also got fiber optic whit the best online connection i can buy in my contry and that to is very good so basically it need to be a mechanics issue someplace.

[Symatrix Hill]

Originally posted by HaTsUnE_NeKo:

can you provide screenshots of this?
as there has been no reports of disappearing towns on the map.

Sorry bud , i do not know how to make a screenshot. Have try that whitout any luck.

Well i also notice many time al my cities dissapear from the map from time to time and when i got back some cities then i also notice new cities who have not been there before popps upp.
And that usually happend when i swap player or press M of course i talking about cities i have discover only whit blueprint.

Well i have done alot of work from only one cities so far and that is the start town almost in the upper right corner of the dessert and there i have stolen alot of map blueprint.

Maby that is different when you are manually in the town but anyway we got alot of cities on that bigg map so if people have been manually in alot of cities and they hitt some blueprint then i think it gonne be hard to track them al upp on the map so basically if they hitt blueprint as i do and not track them upp 100 % then i may think they got the same bug whitout knowing it.

http://kenshi.wikia.com/wiki/World_of_Kenshi

That link there is very nice and we should have a pages whit al cities we discover and when we click on it then we may should spawn from the cities we click on to the map place and then we know where it is and we also keep track on al those cities that way.
Some info what area each cities are in is to prefer and maybe a square on each cities and we can also mark it as visited and know we got 100% track on al those cities and as you know the map is very bigg whit alot and alot of ruin and cities and that turn easy to confused long time before we have visit them al this way the mechanics work now.
We cant remember al those cities and that is my biggest issue " where have i been and where was that cities or ruin "

Basically the truble start when we have discover al cities and ruin in the game and now we gonne travel to al those cities and what happend when we have been in 75% of them " where was those other 25 -20 -15-10-5-4-3-2-1 % if you catch my point ,-) and afther a long time we ask us self " have i really visit al the place who exist on the map now!

Of course we wanne discover and visit al place in the game but we need a better system to keep track on them al, pl think about it and add some new mechanics to that map system ,-)

Nice you devs follow up al those thread out here, not many game doing that these days ,-)

[Symatrix Hill]

Originally posted by David Badger:

Originally posted by Murata:

I ve never had any map trouble. Perhaps zoom in on the map to see small cities / locations

this is what it sounds like to me as well.
if you zoom out a bit far smaller towns/ruins/camps will not show.
the zoom on the map needs to be in enough for the stuff to show-up. it's just how it is.

You can always zome out the map on this link bud ,-)

http://kenshi.wikia.com/wiki/World_of_Kenshi

Ty for your post by the way ,-)

[Symatrix Hill]

Originally posted by Murata:

I ve never had any map trouble. Perhaps zoom in on the map to see small cities / locations

And you to ,-)

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

Originally posted by Symatrix Hill:

and afther a long time we ask us self " have i really visit al the place who exist on the map now!

then you go out and run around exploring.

Originally posted by Symatrix Hill:

That link there is very nice and we should have a pages whit al cities we discover and when we click on it then we may should spawn from the cities we click on to the map place and then we know where it is and we also keep track on al those cities that way.

kinda sounds like a fast travel request?
if so then there is supposed to be a type of fast travel in game but not instant like in nearly all games. you would just get there faster than you would if you went on foot.

[Symatrix Hill]

Originally posted by HaTsUnE_NeKo:

Originally posted by Symatrix Hill:

and afther a long time we ask us self " have i really visit al the place who exist on the map now!

then you go out and run around exploring.

Originally posted by Symatrix Hill:

That link there is very nice and we should have a pages whit al cities we discover and when we click on it then we may should spawn from the cities we click on to the map place and then we know where it is and we also keep track on al those cities that way.

kinda sounds like a fast travel request?
if so then there is supposed to be a type of fast travel in game but not instant like in nearly all games. you would just get there faster than you would if you went on foot.

I do not talk about fast travel , only mark on the map.

Like you got a page whit many different town so when you click on one of them then your map spawn upp and show you where it is and this way we do not need to spend alot of time to track that city on the map and by the way when it work like this example then we also know there is the city on the map we just find a blueprint on.
Of course if we got the name on the city pages and a bug popp up then the city pages tell us where that city should be and name on the area to and if we got a map / city bug the the map can not show us that because that town is not on the map as the way it should be.
If we got 1000 cityes and find a new bluprint then we just click on the city name pages and we track where on the map that city is.
None fast travel bud , i do not like that. Prefer to use my feet and exsplore around manually ,-)

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

but there has never been a bug with cities not showing up. so don't see the point for that. it literally depends on how close you zoom in on the map to see the smaller cities.

though the city page would be helpful for like setting a waypoint to the front of the gate. then the selected characters could path to it. which would be better than doing it from the map and clicking on the city. which causes a ton of fun pathing issues currently.

[Symatrix Hill]

Originally posted by HaTsUnE_NeKo:

but there has never been a bug with cities not showing up. so don't see the point for that. it literally depends on how close you zoom in on the map to see the smaller cities.

though the city page would be helpful for like setting a waypoint to the front of the gate. then the selected characters could path to it. which would be better than doing it from the map and clicking on the city. which causes a ton of fun pathing issues currently.

-- Well that bug where cities not appear on the map and never get back and disappear suddenly happend now dude and by the way where was the last ones " Lost Arrmoury "and why do al location dissapear from the map and only few came back ?
I save and quit the game and when i log on i se that location is still away like many other locatin and agen when i find a newr Lost Armoury Blueprint then the game say : you have this location / and where is it ?


-- Click on that link i give you - scroll down and hitt a random cities - and when you doing that then the map should spawn upp and show us that location.
Every location we find on blueprint or manually should add to that list and map automaticly.

Do you really know how many location you got in the game , you got more than 60 location and how do you think we should be able to keep track on al those location ?

That issue alone gonne give alot of frustration to everyones who start upp this game in one or another stages and that is not your game served whit.


-- Another thing - hitt that link i give you and go to the map there and zome max in and now you se by your self how easy the wikie map mechanics works - it is none problem to track al location there ( when you know where they are ) so here too you have some work to do because the way your map mechanics works now it far away from satisfactory , basically it is pain in the ass to track any location the way it work now and sorry about that.

This is soon 2020 dude and you have a very nice game there , that game here have a bright future and you gonne make much more mony on it so why not make it litle more easy and fair for us and place some work and mony on the map mechanics ,-)


Have a nice day bud.

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

um
that's the wiki, not the game. the wiki shows all locations. the map in game doesn't. unless you zoom in enough.

the game mechanics work as thus. in game when looking at the map, it's defaulted to max view, the smaller settlements won't be shown until you zoom in, at a certain point they will then show up when you have zoomed in enough. but you have to zoom in enough for them to show up.

that's part of the game. and you have to discover each location by visiting it or buying/looting maps that reveal locations. so if you don't know a place's location it will not show up.

not sure what 2020 has to do with anything. this is the Lo-FI games first video game. they working with what they have and learned to do.

btw, i'm a moderator, not a Dev. and a player of the game with over 2k hours into it.

[Symatrix Hill]

Originally posted by HaTsUnE_NeKo:

um
that's the wiki, not the game. the wiki shows all locations. the map in game doesn't. unless you zoom in enough.

the game mechanics work as thus. in game when looking at the map, it's defaulted to max view, the smaller settlements won't be shown until you zoom in, at a certain point they will then show up when you have zoomed in enough. but you have to zoom in enough for them to show up.

that's part of the game. and you have to discover each location by visiting it or buying/looting maps that reveal locations. so if you don't know a place's location it will not show up.

not sure what 2020 has to do with anything. this is the Lo-FI games first video game. they working with what they have and learned to do.

btw, i'm a moderator, not a Dev. and a player of the game with over 2k hours into it.

Remove the zome then , why use alot of time on a map ! We wanne spend al those houer on the game bud and not a bad mechanics map.


2k as a moderator is like a rain dropp in the ocean bud , you can multiple the 2k whit many 100 houer and more if i gonne tell about al the time i have spend on game like this the first time it came out on comandore 64 - exbox- playstation and ....... so i am pretty sure i know what i am talking about ,-)

That is stuff like that who raise upp the lv of the game but as i know many times the devs and moderator alway defend the way it is to the death either it is because of the economic or other stuff and as you know some of those game is abandoned now and long time ago.

If i was happy whit it or it was like ok and not more then i have not make this post but the mechanics so far is far away from ok when we look at the map mechanics whit more than 60 location who takes month afther month to do everything and if you do not know that then i gonne tell : many of those player gonne be frustration about the mapmechanics and they probably gonne quite long time before they finish the game to the max and now al thems friend gonne know about it and more and more people. Well you know the calulation so i do not fell i need to say more about it.

Anyway i do not expext you gonne changes anything ( like al other moderatorer and devs out there ) but i give it a try and use my time just to tell you about those different map issue.

The map is a bigg part of the game farther out in the game and as you know we are not devs or moderatorer but we are the people who play al the time each day from we was kidd to that day we gonne say good by to this world and whit al that gaiming i may think we know alot more than you and al other who make those game how a game should work but it look like you not know that ,-)


Well that was my short true story lol , have a nice day bud and take care ,-)

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

Originally posted by Symatrix Hill:

Remove the zome then , why use alot of time on a map ! We wanne spend al those houer on the game bud and not a bad mechanics map.

the zoom is there because the map is so large. this way you can quickly move the minimap and zoom into the area you need. so you can more precisely click the map to send your people to. and not just city locations. it's a primary way of movement in the game. so it needs to be diverse and scrollable.


and moved to general discussions as this is not a bug.

[Symatrix Hill]

Originally posted by HaTsUnE_NeKo:

Originally posted by Symatrix Hill:

Remove the zome then , why use alot of time on a map ! We wanne spend al those houer on the game bud and not a bad mechanics map.

the zoom is there because the map is so large. this way you can quickly move the minimap and zoom into the area you need. so you can more precisely click the map to send your people to. and not just city locations. it's a primary way of movement in the game. so it needs to be diverse and scrollable.


and moved to general discussions as this is not a bug.

Well so where is the Lost Armouer on my map and where went al thos other town and why suddenly al town disappear from my map ?

The other part was a suggestion as you know ,-)