Kenshi
Holy Nation attacked my innocent greenlander
Hi,
Two of my greenlander characters got imprisoned while entering a Holy Nation city when a guard asked to see their gear, to check for unholly stuff I guess. These guard controls happened several times before (everyday roughly), so since I have no stolen stuff, no disguise, nothing to hide in short, I always say yes and it always went fine until now.

My first guy had a few raw iron in his inventory, default rusty sword, bandit's shirt, and that's it. I was at the city's gates when it happened. After searching him the guard directly attacked him, saying "he's a skeleton in disguise !" and other similar stuff I can't remember.
He then took my guy into prison and patched him up, and I now have a 5500 bounty.

I've searched a bit and only found that they might attack if you're either non-human (skeleton in particular), or have unholy stuff in your inventory... Or don't answer their demands to show them your stuff.
Is there any other reason for this I didn't read about, or is it just random bad luck ?
I joined a few screens of the steps.
They took my sword and armor. This guy (first guy, last screen) had his default rusty junk sword on him, and a starving bandit's rag shirt. My otherguy (second captured, first 5 screens) may have had a bandit's sword, can't remember exactly which junk sword he had. Other than that he was clean.

I run the latest stable version.

This thing happens everyday:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874483

I always pick the first option, since I'm not supposed to be the Dark One in person, and I can't afford paying 2k cats/days just because I wish to sell a few iron ores:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874567

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874655

Somehow I'm unholy
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874716

Inventory:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874789

Inventory of my first guy:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801836408
Last edited by 🔴3̲ 0̲ % ᗜˬᗜ; Nov 18, 2016 @ 10:12am
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Tommygun Nov 18, 2016 @ 9:09am 
Well the gate guards at the United Cities will falsely accuse your squad members of carrying drugs to extort money from you.
Maybe this is supposed to be something similar or just to add to the atmosphere of paranoia in the Holy Nation?
Were there any dialog options to praise the Holy Nation or their beliefs to try and get out of the situation?
Last edited by Tommygun; Nov 18, 2016 @ 9:11am
Niekos Nov 18, 2016 @ 9:12am 
Have you thought of the possibility that perhaps... The guy you hired HAS A SKELETON INSIDE OF HIM?!!!! O_O
Ahah, perhaps Niekos, perhaps...
Tommygun, no, I only had the usual "show them your gear" dialogue options (I could also bribe them to look the other way, ask them why they should search pure people or something like that). I always choose this option and until now, it always ended up fine, and they'd say "everyhting is in order", and such.
No dialogue implied them purposely accusing me to extort money... Is that really a thing ? What happens when they do that, exactly ?
Xero Nov 18, 2016 @ 9:20am 
Maybe he just had too much iron in his diet?
I must be blind, but I also just noticed they took my "rag shirt", that must've been tagged as stolen since I took it from a starving bandit's corpse. Yet they're not supposed to be mad at me for looting bandits, are they ?
Tommygun Nov 18, 2016 @ 9:41am 
Originally posted by 30%:
Ahah, perhaps Niekos, perhaps...
Tommygun, no, I only had the usual "show them your gear" dialogue options (I could also bribe them to look the other way, ask them why they should search pure people or something like that). I always choose this option and until now, it always ended up fine, and they'd say "everyhting is in order", and such.
No dialogue implied them purposely accusing me to extort money... Is that really a thing ? What happens when they do that, exactly ?

I just paid out the 2000 cats and didn't try to argue with them. It's happened three times and each time the guard mentioned about see all those bags (I think he's referring to backpacks), this may be a trigger for it?
There was a bug about stolen items and bandits and how the theft system handled it quite a while back, but maybe it's back.
If it is, the bug might be the trigger for the skeleton dialog?
Last edited by Tommygun; Nov 18, 2016 @ 9:42am
I doubt that havin a backpack could trigger this, since I've passed several times with backpacks without any problems. And well it would be gamebreaking really...

So it just happened again, I took screenshots of the successive steps

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874483

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874567

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874655

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874716

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801874789
Last edited by 🔴3̲ 0̲ % ᗜˬᗜ; Nov 18, 2016 @ 9:53am
I mean these controls happen everyday. I can't afford aying 2k cats everyday for some mysterious reason, much less 5500 cats. I need to understand what's the matter here, if it's a bug, or if having bandit gear isn't fine by Holy rednecks...
Tommygun Nov 18, 2016 @ 10:06am 
That's pretty much identical to the United Cities one, just worded differently.
But after they search, you do get more dialog options and the option to pay the money.
Well, it's a new feature. At the very least it needs game balancing.
Shidan Nov 18, 2016 @ 10:57am 
It's the bug with Holy Nation gate guards. They have a trigger to attack in their dialog where it shouldn't be, causing unwarranted attacks.

It has already been fixed in the experimental build though. So a fix is coming. :)
I see, thank you for this information ! :)

@Xero, sorry I didn't catch your pun, it was a good one ;)
Last edited by 🔴3̲ 0̲ % ᗜˬᗜ; Nov 18, 2016 @ 11:03am
Peregrine Nov 19, 2016 @ 3:41pm 
KO for 777.... and that's AFTER they got you in the cage.... I've inflicted 660 before, but DANG, your guy must have been out for over 15 minutes!
Yeah he got hit pretty hard !
Since this issue was gamebreaking for me at this stage, I updated to the experimental now, and therefore I imported everything into a new world. Well, turns out resetting the squads positions freed my guys :P Just had a long walk back home.
Peregrine Nov 19, 2016 @ 10:03pm 
That sucks bro. I'm on the southside of the map, I hang out near Hub and Waystation, so I don't have that issue much, Tiny Settlement doesn't bother me with those problems.
Fodren Nov 20, 2016 @ 4:48pm 
The exact same thing happend to me in experimental.
I send a Caravan of 4 Soldiers, 1 Medic, 1 Trader and a Bull to buy some food. All the gear is crafted by myself, nothing was looted. My inventory was empty, only medkits and 2 backpacks.
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Date Posted: Nov 18, 2016 @ 8:41am
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