All I wanna do is bake bread.

[ExecutiveOdin]

In over two weeks after having made a base I have baked almost three loaves of bread.
My four little bakers have been ejected and recaptured my base about six times. At one point I had around 40 starving bandits just standing in my base while I ran away back to the hub to heal and eat. I even paid them 500 bucks and they still attacked me. Luckily they left by themselves eventually.

The dust bandits came by and extorted me for four thousand bucks at one point and have left me alone since. The holy flame or whatever comes by now and then and has me pray with them, even bought a book for it.
But then the starving bandits are just this constant flood of issues. Like hey maybe you wouldn't be starving if you LET ME GROW FOOD. And now I have 17 band of bones guys just standing outside my wall. I had saved right before the raid and they just stood outside for a bit and eventually the message popped up saying the raid was over, so I unlocked my house door and within seconds they tore down my outer wall and overran me.

I would try and get more people to help me but since you can only recruit specific people in bars for a pile of cash and I haven't had the time to explore for them or gather money I'm just screwed.

Why are the raids like this?

[Hatsune Neko Gaming]

start in a city
do not build your base out in the hinterlands first and defiantly do not build it when you can not even defend it.
its asking for trouble.

[mcb0ny]

It's because the game does not really warn you that creating a base while all you have is 4 dudes who barely know which end of the sword is for poking people is a bad idea. ;]

If you want to keep this up, you can go to the options and reduce raid frequency and their squad size, cause i assume you don't have the cash to hire mercenaries.

[Muscarine]

People are hungry yo

Hire mercenaries, bake in peace.

The message telling a raid is over means they're regrouping and walking away, but if they still see you they will still beat the crap out of you, so wait until they're actually gone.

[ExecutiveOdin]

They never leave. I waited for twelve hours after the raid ended message before unlocking the door this time and they just stood there. Moment I opened it bam flooded by enemies.

Is the issue really fighting skill when it's constanlty 5v1 combat? Where are these people coming from? Why are they attacking me? These bone guys just steamroll me and then stand around staring at each other forever.

This just feels like fundamental world building issues more than anything. Where are these people coming from? Why are they attacking such a poor target instead of richer cities?

[Yellowjacket]

Originally posted by ExecutiveOdin:

They never leave. I waited for twelve hours after the raid ended message before unlocking the door this time and they just stood there. Moment I opened it bam flooded by enemies.

Is the issue really fighting skill when it's constanlty 5v1 combat? Where are these people coming from? Why are they attacking me? These bone guys just steamroll me and then stand around staring at each other forever.

This just feels like fundamental world building issues more than anything. Where are these people coming from? Why are they attacking such a poor target instead of richer cities?

because you are an easy target

[Muscarine]

Because they're poor and weak and hungry and you're an easy target.
That has nothing to do with world building issues.

Dust bandits and the likes are barely competent fighters, that means your characters are weaklings.
Later on you'll 1v100 Dust bandits if you want. Right now you have to come to the realization this is a very hostile world if it wasn't obvious enough, and at least you're lucky they just want your bread and not eat your guys.

Protect your settlement properly or don't be surprised when sombody just comes in and take what they want. It's not rocket science.
It's very easy to settle outside early as long as you spare a bit of cats first to hire a band of mercenaries. If you don't understand that means actual mercenaries, not more squad members. They have contracts for up to 8 days (renewable) and they will make mince meat out of dust bandits and the likes while you make your bread.

[ExecutiveOdin]

Yeah I'm an easy target but it's literally twenty guys running a quarter of the way across the world to take NOTHING. I don't even have negative reputation with them.
I turned the raid fequency and strength down to minimum and made the passing groups rare. Then retook my base again. Before another day had passed I had twelve attackers but this time it was dust bandits AND starving bandits working as a team.

So I said ♥♥♥♥ it. I went back to the hub and did some mining and research, built the second tier training dummy, because for some reason you can't just spar? Eventually went back to my outpost to upgrade the walls. In the time it took for my worker to tear down two makeshift walls another raid was announced, back to the hub.

My combat skills had stalled entirely. Tried to find some guys to go out and fight but everyone travels in groups of at least ten. Which means I COULD level my guys but it'd mean getting the snot kicked out of me over and over which from reading seems to be the way you progress and it's silly, and is also why the dev doesn't put in the ability to coup de grace. Because it'd be impossible to play because enemies would just murder you.

I guess I'm mostly frustrated because I thought I was playing something like rimworld or mount and blade with better RPG elements and an R rating. Instead it's feels more like an RTS where only the enemy gets to build units.

Oh and eventually I did attack my base again, this time everyone fully healed, with upgraded weapons stolen from other factions. I'd have liked to craft some of my own but you can't build half the refineries and stuff in town and if I place one it counts as starting an outpost and it'll get raided every three hours. Anyway I show back up and there are fifteen dust bandits in my building, again, just standing there letting my (their) crops rot and doing nothing. And they wash over my four guys and I quit. Could I have hired mercs like you guys said? Sure, where the ♥♥♥♥ are they? Should I need to hire bands of guards or follow a guide to get masterwork weapons and armor before leaving the first town as bruce lee to protect a single square of farmland from the five armies? Apparently so according to this game.

Starting out this was my thought process:
Ok, I can mine this copper for ore and sell it for food.
Food is my main expense so the first thing I should do is produce it myself.
So I'll research farming and plant wheat and cotton and also get clothing.
I'll set my guys to use the training dummy between tasks and after I'm fed and not in rags I can sell excess food to fund more industry and attract trade and recruits.

The game:
Do ANYTHING outside of town and fight fifty people.
Stay in town and you can't build half the the stuff or feed yourself so just stare at a screen and mine for hours.

Again, you guys seem to dig it, but I went in thinking this was a game where you drop into a living world. But it's just one big monster spawner.

[BLKCandy]

Actually, dust bandits raid you with 10 ish men at level 15 and poor equipment. 'Real' random fighters level around 30. Professional soldiers at 40. If you are lower than 30, consider your character as 'non combatant'.

Around three or four properly trained and equipped soldiers should be enough for random bandits. But it seems like you don't have that. So... Yeah. You started building too early.

Stick to the town and go adventuring(hunting bandits) for now. You aren't strong enough to hold an outpost.

[BLKCandy]

And you should be attacked like a few times a day if you are in a hot spot. Some place are much safer. Some place aren't.

Border Zone isn't exactly a safe place.

[iokimg]

Options menu->gameplay->town raid events, raid size and attack frequency adjustment options.

Adjust to your liking. After you set them import the game to clear your base and bake some bread.

[Jack Kenseng]

I recommend building a base close to Hivers, they don't don't seem to care one bit and immediately beat the crap out of black ninjas for me when they came to raid my little farm. No wandering bandits at all in the area, just be safe with the gorillos and beak things. I've done this several times now, and usually build off of a tip on the western coast off of the territory lines of the factions and have only been visited by cannibals. Dangerous to actually come and go from though. :o

[BLKCandy]

I'd consider beak things much more dangerous than random dust bandits or black dragon ninjas though...

[Jack Kenseng]

Just northwest of Hub is a hiver village that I haven't seen any Beak Things at all near, not deep enough in or they moved Beak Things away in recent updates. Try that spot.

I also play with Economy Overhaul and really, you could live in Squin and feed 10+ people buying meat from the bars if you're vanilla.

And yes Border Zone is a BAD place to be at. I've killed dozens of starvng bandits DAILY being situated too close to Squin or Hub because they're so many that spawn there and wander up. I only have to deal with announced raids and I can lure them into the locals. And that's with TWO PEOPLE with garbage stats.

ALSO, The Hub sucks. There's no guards. Try any other major city.

[mcb0ny]

Originally posted by aidynmaster:

Just northwest of Hub is a hiver village that I haven't seen any Beak Things at all near, not deep enough in or they moved Beak Things away in recent updates. Try that spot.

I also play with Economy Overhaul and really, you could live in Squin and feed 10+ people buying meat from the bars if you're vanilla.

RNG, i guess, cause in my current playthrough there are beak things in that village.

[Jack Kenseng]

So apparently that same location, and even in the middle of the hiver village, became a spawning area for dozens of Beak Things when I tried visiting it in another game. Why?...I don't know. Just import when that crap happens I guess.