Kenshi
Locklave Apr 21, 2019 @ 6:34am
Got caught stealing, Got caught stealing, Got caught stealing...
Why is this still in the game?

Enemies all downed on the battlefield, I try to loot a weapon or armor and I get stopped by this stupid message because so random guy is playing dead.

Either force them to get up and fight me or remove playing dead from the "Got caught stealing" garbage popping up.

This has been an ongoing problem in every build since I bought the game like 1 year ago.

Fix it.

Edit:

I can kidnap them while they Play Dead but can't loot their gear cause they catch me...
Last edited by Locklave; Apr 21, 2019 @ 8:11am
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Fried Noodles Apr 21, 2019 @ 7:35am 
Just don't get caught stealing. Then you won't get caught stealing.
Bones Johnson Apr 21, 2019 @ 7:35am 
Just use it as a way to train up a guy in thievery or circumvent it by your thief doing the looting.
Locklave Apr 21, 2019 @ 7:41am 
Originally posted by Fried Noodles:
Just don't get caught stealing. Then you won't get caught stealing.

Learn to read, this is on a battlefield and defeated enemies. I don't care what a playing dead guy sees.

Originally posted by Bones Johnson:
Just use it as a way to train up a guy in thievery or circumvent it by your thief doing the looting.

That's an exploitative mechanics and why do I need to circumvent a terrible poorly considered game mechanic.


My point in case it's unclear below.

Clicks on the the Rebel Swordsman's Heart plate 15 times to loot it because he's catching me while playing dead...

He's either playing dead and catching me, he should be doing only 1. Playing dead should prevent enemies from catching thieves.
Last edited by Locklave; Apr 21, 2019 @ 7:42am
Fried Noodles Apr 21, 2019 @ 7:44am 
Originally posted by Locklave:
Originally posted by Fried Noodles:
Just don't get caught stealing. Then you won't get caught stealing.

Learn to read, this is on a battlefield and defeated enemies.

Yeah, but you keep getting caught stealing. That's the problem.
You just need to not get caught stealing. Then you won't get caught stealing.
Then there won't be any problem. Ya dig?

Also, if he's just playing dead you could just pick up the body and loot 'em that way. They don't whine when they're getting a piggyback ride. Then just drop 'em when you've claimed their items.
Locklave Apr 21, 2019 @ 7:50am 
Originally posted by Fried Noodles:
Originally posted by Locklave:

Learn to read, this is on a battlefield and defeated enemies.

Yeah, but you keep getting caught stealing. That's the problem.
You just need to not get caught stealing. Then you won't get caught stealing.
Then there won't be any problem. Ya dig?

Also, if he's just playing dead you could just pick up the body and loot 'em that way. They don't whine when they're getting a piggyback ride. Then just drop 'em when you've claimed their items.

Okay, you clearly don't get my point. I know the workarounds. The game shouldn't require workarounds because the mechanics are dumb.

Should you be able to play dead and prevent enemies from stealing your gear at the same time? No, because that's dumb.

They need to
a) Play dead
or
b) Get up and try and stop me from stealing their gear

The player doesn't get to do both and it's illogical.

It's a oversight that requires fixing.
MildRaven Apr 21, 2019 @ 7:54am 
"fix" is for something broken, got caught stealing while playing dead is not something broken, so no fix needed...there are more than 1 way to loot items from downed enemies but i can see you are not patience enough for it and want to loot them as soon as they downed...which is actually possible, you just clicked them at the wrong time, while they are "playing dead"...
BALTBVLL Apr 21, 2019 @ 7:57am 
Finish the fakers off and continue looting
Locklave Apr 21, 2019 @ 8:00am 
Originally posted by Yanda:
"fix" is for something broken, got caught stealing while playing dead is not something broken, so no fix needed...there are more than 1 way to loot items from downed enemies but i can see you are not patience enough for it and want to loot them as soon as they downed...which is actually possible, you just clicked them at the wrong time, while they are "playing dead"...

How is a guy playing dead catching and stopping you looting him!?

Everyone on the battlefield is down, everyone is dying or playing dead and GOT CAUGHT STEALING.

Someone playing dead isn't playing dead if they catch and prevent you taking their gear. It is broken and that's totally illogical, your counter argument is nonsense. Just because it's always worked like that doesn't mean it's not broken and stupid.

Don't defend stupid mechanics.

If he caught me stopping my looting he's no longer playing dead. Or does he grab my arm and go back to faking being dead like you seem to think?
Last edited by Locklave; Apr 21, 2019 @ 8:23am
Locklave Apr 21, 2019 @ 8:02am 
Originally posted by basketball bro:
Finish the fakers off and continue looting

You literally can't finish them off till they stop playing dead or bleed out. This is a common problem and it's how people level up thievery which is why so many defend the stupid mechanic while pretending it makes sense.
Plom Apr 21, 2019 @ 10:11am 
Imagine the bandit with his eyes closed and his body laying on the ground, suddenly catching the players hands and looking directly at him with his big eyes open, telling him to "back off", then re-closing his eyes and sticking his tongue out to play dead again. Good actor.
Locklave Apr 21, 2019 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by Plom:
Imagine the bandit with his eyes closed and his body laying on the ground, suddenly catching the players hands and looking directly at him with his big eyes open, telling him to "back off", then re-closing his eyes and sticking his tongue out to play dead again. Good actor.

This exactly. Thank you.
Lunar Shower Apr 21, 2019 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by Locklave:
Originally posted by basketball bro:
Finish the fakers off and continue looting

You literally can't finish them off till they stop playing dead or bleed out. This is a common problem and it's how people level up thievery which is why so many defend the stupid mechanic while pretending it makes sense.
Fairly certain this is just an attempt to meme/troll at this point, but really, unless your character is limbless or going against characters with vastly superior stats, it shouldn't be that difficult to knock out some characters who are playing dead once they awake. Even if you don't feel like going through that and 'exploiting' mechanics, could always pick up the body or bodies of those whom you wish to loot and cart them off on your back. Not a bad way to build up strength in doing so either, and in the case these enemies are higher in stats then you doing this and bringing them to a town can be an easy way to take care of them.

Whether its really a fully sensible or broken mechanic though, unless it gets deemed a bug (which I sincerely doubt) its not going to get fixed, the studio is already working on their next game and is only bugfixing kenshi at this point. All in all, someone playing dead and then getting pissed when you try to loot them or their buddies isn't the most ludicrous of things really, doubt they'd be all too happy to feel their weapons/armor/valuables being lifted from their body, or seeing it happen to someone opposite of them.
Locklave Apr 21, 2019 @ 10:48am 
It's so much fun when dumb stuff happens in a game how many people come out of the woodwork to defend a worse gaming experience.

Originally posted by Lunar Shower:
All in all, someone playing dead and then getting pissed when you try to loot them or their buddies

They don't stop playing dead, ffs. Can anyone read. They just magically catch you which stops you from taking it. Some magical force slaps your hand away and they keep playing dead giggling at you I'd assume.

Workarounds... things that shouldn't be needed in a finished game. I'm not dancing around the is it a bug or not talk.
Lelo Mariin Apr 21, 2019 @ 11:34am 
I get your frustration
When all enemies are downed / dead / incapacitated or playing dead the victor should take whatever he wants. If someone isn't dead and "catches" me stealing he should get up and fight. Not drop down and "play dead" again.

Unfortunatly you cannot "finish off" playing dead characters in an unmodded game.
I believe the mod is called " execute" or "finish them off" in the workshop.
Hatsune Neko Gaming Apr 21, 2019 @ 12:18pm 
unless the Dev considers this a bug, then the issue will most likely not be addressed.
Also Locklave, try and not go off the handel. this is a video game. you will have lot more success if you come at this calmly.
and accept that people will not always see it your way.
take the feedback for what it is, feedback

and i expect everyone else to follow suite.
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