Question for Bullet hell/Bullet heaven Vetrans

[DLL|Bella]

Did y'all play Vampire Survivors, the "OG" game, before this? If so, would you recommend playing it before Death Must Die? I'm kinda new to the genre and just discovered Brotato, which I think is pretty fun. I just saw that Death Must Die has a bundle with 20 Minutes Till Dawn (you only save like 1$ ), which also looks pretty cool, especially since I'm a fan of the Lovecraftian mythos. What are y'all's thoughts?

[Steelflame]

I have played VS, but honestly build mechanics are quite different between the two games. In VS, you can get basically everything if you plan it right on the right stages. This game very much has build design as a core component, with the fact you can only get 3 gods+the fates. Out of 8 gods+fates. Only exception is one rare unique affix to your gear can unlock that limit.

20 Min till Dawn is much more like VS than it is this. It also has theoretically uncapped build variance (practical level cap of 40 means you won't see it on any half-decent build). I know it has some planned rework to the meta-progression in the near future, but overall is a complete package.


I do like all 3 games, but they scratch slightly different itches. VS trends towards homogenization, 20MTD has extreme character variance, but builds ultimately tend towards the same 3-4 broad sets on higher difficulties. This game has pretty intense build variation due to the gods being semi-random (alteration rolls can let you try and roll a different god than the one you're selected on, unlike reroll which randomizes the current god's offerings).

Also, VS and 20MTD are both "complete" as they stand. This game is rather blatently only about 60-70% complete.

[Null Winter]

VS is not even close to pretending it might have been the "OG"; you'd need to go back to the early days of Newgrounds and Flash games for the roots of the top-down horde shooter genre.

20 Minutes is pretty solid despite having less depth than this game and is still occasionally getting updates in between the dev working on a much more serious sequel.

[Schwerer Rammbrokk]

Between the mentioned titles (which btw all are top-tier reverse bullet hell games), I'd say you should play:
- VS if you just want to get addicted lol (also check out Magic Survival, the Android game that Poncle quoted as their - rather obvious - inspiration.)
- 20MTD if you enjoy simple, moderate action to an atmosphere that's easy on your senses
- Death Must Die if you enjoy collecting loot and building your characters Diablo style with a skill system and overarching story line comparable to Hades'

[weirdee]

If you want this game but with less super randomized gear and more stat stacking like Vampire Survivors, check out Halls of Torment.