Death Must Die

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Stace McGate Apr 27, 2024 @ 1:30pm
Summer needs to be reworked
Just testing things out up until darkness 70 on Act II, and Summer seems more and more an outlier compared to the other gods. While the others have specialty and utility. Summer's jack of all trades style makes her a liability and waste of levels to invest in.

Flare is an extremely weak counter power, Combust is only useful against chaff trash mobs, Breath of fire's range is far too low, etc etc. Her tool kit is just inferior to everyone's elses and her only useful abilities are passives. Burn as a status effect should also be considered for a rework, possibly have it deal increased DOT per stack? Even on a fully spec'd Sorceress I found avoiding investing in Burn brought about more success.

I'm of the mindset her specialty should be based around casting and all her abilities prioritizing aoes as a good starter God. Her powers need to be less based on death after effects for minions and moreso towards providing reliable DPS.
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ZeppMan217 Apr 27, 2024 @ 2:00pm 
Her powers might be garbage and she might have some filler blessings but, at the same time, she gives both power and cast damage, in addition to attack speed. On top of that, she has the single most powerful dash with reliable damage and a dot.

Use banishes or items with +blessing lvl up affix to avoid seeing her bad options.
Kingfisher Apr 27, 2024 @ 2:14pm 
Her summon can be very strong. I'll admit though that her powers are terrible.
FAST&BULBOUS Apr 27, 2024 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by ZeppMan217:
On top of that, she has the single most powerful dash with reliable damage and a dot.
How have you tested this? To me it feels strong but not nearly as strong as most strikes/casts/powers, making it a waste of points.

I find the utility in great wall or vortex to be better.
Last edited by FAST&BULBOUS; Apr 27, 2024 @ 3:19pm
MS Apr 27, 2024 @ 3:20pm 
ive seen lots of posts of people using her for crux 100 runs, i think shes mostly good for status damage builds. i dont use her personally but i dont think shes bad either. she does have some trash abilities, but pretty much every god does.
Murasa Apr 27, 2024 @ 7:24pm 
Originally posted by FAST&BULBOUS:
Originally posted by ZeppMan217:
On top of that, she has the single most powerful dash with reliable damage and a dot.
How have you tested this? To me it feels strong but not nearly as strong as most strikes/casts/powers, making it a waste of points.

I find the utility in great wall or vortex to be better.

I have a 330% dash damage build with Merris that abuses Summer's dashes. Just get Krom for Rampage (dash damage increase), as well as a chance for his Legend blessing that gives +222% damage.

On an average run I would be doing ~75k damage per dash. With Krom's Legend blessing I was doing ~150k per dash.
Kingfisher Apr 27, 2024 @ 7:26pm 
Yeah trail of fire is imo the best dash in the game. You can absolutely melt bosses with it
Hormesis Apr 27, 2024 @ 10:33pm 
summer + mort + ghenna and spread dots = pretty crazy exp, especially in act1 where there's greater enemy density.

her attack has a high damage modifier making it ideal for builds that synergize with high attack.

her counter has a decent aoe, making it the best counter for mobs.

her attack speed buff synergizes with any build that is strike dependent

summon is decent and meteor + fire summons = crowd control

that's all i can think of off the top of my head but i'm sure i'm leaving something out. i'll use her any time she offers me a master blessing, which isn't necessarily true for mort, war or time.
Shjade Apr 27, 2024 @ 10:47pm 
It's kinda funny seeing Flare go from OP must-have luck build blessing to "extremely weak counter power." They really hit some builds hard.
sultanov Apr 27, 2024 @ 11:15pm 
fun fact about combust : it can shoot enemies on top of you
( slime delivery on top of your head op )
in act 2 patch devs gave summer some more stuff ( like atk speed; also burning was buffed ) but i still consider her to be mid-low tier.
im mostly playing D100 ( and mostly failing XD) so dont take my word too seriously.
for me she is just not as important as Justice and Ninh
i ignore her 90% of the time unless i see master tier fury then sometimes i give in, even her legendaries are kinda meh
Bug Guy Apr 28, 2024 @ 10:02am 
Originally posted by <⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️>:
i ignore her 90% of the time unless i see master tier fury then sometimes i give in, even her legendaries are kinda meh
Lol I read this as "master tier furry" at first
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Date Posted: Apr 27, 2024 @ 1:30pm
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