Death Must Die

Death Must Die

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Null Winter Nov 16, 2023 @ 6:57am
Lady Justice wants only one thing and it's absolutely disgusting.
Raw, unfiltered survivability that totally trivializes a run.
Last edited by Null Winter; Nov 16, 2023 @ 2:31pm
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Null Winter Nov 16, 2023 @ 2:39pm 
Bad memes aside, Justice is too overtuned with pretty much every sustainability blessing aside from core HP and Evasion buffs (because the Fates already had those) and heal-on-hit (as a Legendary Mort blessing): no frills regen, reducing enemy damage via basic attacks causing Weakening, refunding HP (and dealing insane retribution damage) when hit, healing efficiency buffs, and outright negating enemy attacks via both a regenerating barrier (affected by cooldown reduction!) and an infinite range, high activation rate auto-stun with damage and no cooldown are all on one god. Pretty much her only weakness is that her dash upgrade is garbage unless you're hyper-focusing on a basic attack build.

The devs desperately need to move some of those blessings over to other gods and focus more on the "justice and retribution" aspect with more of her blessings focusing on revenge against those who hit you and/or evening the odds against bosses.

I kept expecting Krom to receive a heal-on-kill or heal-on-elite kill/boss fight start blessing during the demo days, but he never did. I also expected the "undo a percentage of the damage you just took" blessing to be on Time, since undoing your wounds via time mechanics is canonically something he (They? Unclear since both are used.) does via his (Their?) hourglass. Healing efficiency and regen could easily be moved over to whatever nature god is likely to be added later. Flat armor boosts seem more like a Krom (literally a warrior god) or Winter (ice armor) thing than a justice/equality/fairness thing. And the dash seems more like something the basic attack focused lightning god could offer instead of his current dash that prevents you from using all those basic attack blessings he grants.
Last edited by Null Winter; Nov 16, 2023 @ 5:48pm
Mr. No_Effs_Given Nov 16, 2023 @ 2:46pm 
You got me in the first part:lunar2019laughingpig::lunar2019laughingpig::lunar2019laughingpig:.
Null Winter Nov 16, 2023 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by Mr. No_Effs_Given:
You got me in the first part:lunar2019laughingpig::lunar2019laughingpig::lunar2019laughingpig:.

So long as the second was also read, then it served its purpose.
Zigzera Nov 16, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
whats the issue with them all being on one god, can in the late game you guarantee a god roll or do you have to use alt rolls instead of reroll to get your survival perks
Null Winter Nov 16, 2023 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by Zigzera:
whats the issue with them all being on one god, can in the late game you guarantee a god roll or do you have to use alt rolls instead of reroll to get your survival perks

Because Lady Justice is one of the last gods to be unlocked (making survival difficult for new players) and she isn't guaranteed to be in your pool of available gods in a given run (hurting everyone and also making a Meteor Kront nearly unplayable).

There's a god having a specialization, and then there's them hoarding everything; Justice has all of the survival blessings aside from raw HP and Evasion buffs offered by the Fates and a luck-based lifesteal rarely offered by Mort (who also might not be in the player's god pool in a run). Many of these blessings don't even fit Justice's theme; I suspect one of the devs really liked her core design and just wanted to slap all the standard survival upgrades on their favorite instead of smartly spreading some of them out to other characters that made more sense for both lore and gameplay.
Null Winter Nov 16, 2023 @ 5:44pm 
So, I picked up both of Justice's Legendaries, and naturally they're both stupidly busted as well.

One upgrades all of your currently owned blessings by one rarity tier; get that past the halfway point of a run and you become effectively unstoppable due to the massive stat buffs you just got across the board.

The other? Whoo boy. Every 28 seconds (baseline), the entire screen gets nuked. Normal enemies? Dead. Elites? Dead. Bosses? Dead. And you can reduce the cooldown. It becomes an idle game.

Yo, devs. What were you smoking/drawing when you designed this character?
Nod Nov 16, 2023 @ 6:13pm 
I'm fine with one god being defense oriented, but for real it seems like there should at least be some base regen in the game and any kind of defensive options for the other gods. Maybe it's just my play style but getting Justice means I'm reaching Dracula (who promptly dumpsters me but that's a me problem), any other combo is more hit and miss to get even that far.
Atlantika Nov 16, 2023 @ 6:22pm 
there is gear you can find to help heal yourself.
Null Winter Nov 16, 2023 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by Nod:
I'm reaching Dracula (who promptly dumpsters me but that's a me problem

To be fair, Dracula's damage output is currently bugged; Justice's one-shot barrier and raw Evasion are the only reliable means of surviving his glitched damage if you get hit a single time by his projectiles.
Null Winter Nov 16, 2023 @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by Anemonix:
there is gear you can find to help heal yourself.

Oh joy! 2 HP per level up or a 0.5% chance of getting 1 HP on a kill, for a single character! That definitely compares to a guaranteed 2 HP regen per second with total damage immunity every 9 seconds because Justice was in the pool this time!
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Handbanana Nov 16, 2023 @ 7:09pm 
Originally posted by Null Winter:
So, I picked up both of Justice's Legendaries, and naturally they're both stupidly busted as well.

One upgrades all of your currently owned blessings by one rarity tier; get that past the halfway point of a run and you become effectively unstoppable due to the massive stat buffs you just got across the board.

The other? Whoo boy. Every 28 seconds (baseline), the entire screen gets nuked. Normal enemies? Dead. Elites? Dead. Bosses? Dead. And you can reduce the cooldown. It becomes an idle game.

Yo, devs. What were you smoking/drawing when you designed this character?

All legendary's are busted. Justices are actually on the tame side.
Handbanana Nov 16, 2023 @ 7:10pm 
Originally posted by Null Winter:
Originally posted by Nod:
I'm reaching Dracula (who promptly dumpsters me but that's a me problem

To be fair, Dracula's damage output is currently bugged; Justice's one-shot barrier and raw Evasion are the only reliable means of surviving his glitched damage if you get hit a single time by his projectiles.

Its not bugged at all.
Null Winter Nov 16, 2023 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by Handbanana:
Originally posted by Null Winter:

To be fair, Dracula's damage output is currently bugged; Justice's one-shot barrier and raw Evasion are the only reliable means of surviving his glitched damage if you get hit a single time by his projectiles.

Its not bugged at all.

Over 350 damage through 60% damage reduction from a single projectile? And the devs admitting they need to check it in another thread? Sure, working as intended.
Handbanana Nov 16, 2023 @ 7:22pm 
Originally posted by Null Winter:
Originally posted by Handbanana:

Its not bugged at all.

Over 350 damage through 60% damage reduction from a single projectile? And the devs admitting they need to check it in another thread? Sure, working as intended.

Him saying he will look into it means nothing. When you start cranking the higher difficulty you get 1 shot by dracula. That is all there is to it.
roach Nov 16, 2023 @ 10:06pm 
isnt this pleasant
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Date Posted: Nov 16, 2023 @ 6:57am
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