Showers or Shower heads in Cell

[WhiskeyPower]

I mainly use dormitory 2x3 with bunk beds , so which is better ,give every cell its own showerhead or build shower?

[Fox]

i'd prefer the individual approach, while more costly and gotta be planned in terms of water distribution its one less room for prisoners to gather, and they can use them as they please while locked... "better" is quite subjective!

[DingBatz]

Gotta agree individual is probably better. I have a prison of 300 and have had shower rooms the entire time and I wish I went with individual showers in each cell. Since most of my prisoners can't get good hygeine, it's the most complained abt need. There probably isn't enough showers & I don't have enough space to expand those rooms. I have to have shower twice in my regime. Really an aspect I should work on...

[WhiskeyPower]

Alright, thank you!

[Valdar]

Individual gets my vote as well. BTW, you can install in the same square as toilet if space is an issue. Looks a bit ugly, but gets the job done.

[Fox]

good thing we're building prisons, not motels... imagine that "♥♥♥♥&shower"-advertisment!

[RagingRumskullian]

Definately individual shower heads. It increases the cell quality value, prisoner happiness, and helps avoid the inconvienent shower time that often invokes fights in the morning.

[Inner Sight]

Since I can just fix a showerhead over the toilet's tile I just add and remove them based on whether or not the prisoner deserves a good cell or a bad one according to their behavior.

One Two downsides of having a shower head in every cell though:
It ruins everyone's environment need. Your janitors have a LOT more to clean than if they can just mop up one shower room. That tends to bleed into your janitors not having as much time to do laundry which makes your clothing need rise.

I think I've been better off playing it fluidly than all in one or the other option. Adding and removing showers to cells based on the level of cell they're entitled to also keeps the prisoners a lot less likely to start an incident.

[Medic Main]

Originally posted by Aasha:

Since I can just fix a showerhead over the toilet's tile I just add and remove them based on whether or not the prisoner deserves a good cell or a bad one according to their behavior.

One Two downsides of having a shower head in every cell though:
It ruins everyone's environment need. Your janitors have a LOT more to clean than if they can just mop up one shower room. That tends to bleed into your janitors not having as much time to do laundry which makes your clothing need rise.

I think I've been better off playing it fluidly than all in one or the other option. Adding and removing showers to cells based on the level of cell they're entitled to also keeps the prisoners a lot less likely to start an incident.

Good thing prison labour is a thing

[Inner Sight]

Originally posted by Rytty:

Originally posted by Aasha:

Since I can just fix a showerhead over the toilet's tile I just add and remove them based on whether or not the prisoner deserves a good cell or a bad one according to their behavior.

One Two downsides of having a shower head in every cell though:
It ruins everyone's environment need. Your janitors have a LOT more to clean than if they can just mop up one shower room. That tends to bleed into your janitors not having as much time to do laundry which makes your clothing need rise.

I think I've been better off playing it fluidly than all in one or the other option. Adding and removing showers to cells based on the level of cell they're entitled to also keeps the prisoners a lot less likely to start an incident.

Good thing prison labour is a thing :hmm:

I know it sounds like an easy goto answer - and it does help - but you'd have to have a lot of deticated janitors to keep up with it on work detail's downtime (because every single cell would need mopping at least twice a day - in addition to the usual mopping they cover through the whole prison).

Plus many of the prisoners you assign to work in laundry will just sit around in the laundry room. Even if there are a lot of empty machines, dirty clothes, and available baskets that they could be operating. You can't rely on them.

If you give everyone a second shower regime or freetime to handle whatever need they want then they'll happily deal with extra showers themselves in the shower room if they want to take them.

[Valdar]

Originally posted by Aasha:

...Your janitors have a LOT more to clean than if they can just mop up one shower room. That tends to bleed into your janitors not having as much time to do laundry which makes your clothing need rise...

I put a drain under the door to each cell; no mopping needed.

[Inner Sight]

Originally posted by Valdar:

Originally posted by Aasha:

...Your janitors have a LOT more to clean than if they can just mop up one shower room. That tends to bleed into your janitors not having as much time to do laundry which makes your clothing need rise...

I put a drain under the door to each cell; no mopping needed.

Oh. That wouldn't stop the need for mopping. Every tile inside of the cell would still become dirty when wet.

Though if you block the showerhead in with a drain (or wall) on every side you could at least minimize it to one single tile that they would have to come in and mop up. Theoretically at least (it might dirty up the drain tiles too).

[Valdar]

Originally posted by Aasha:

Originally posted by Valdar:

I put a drain under the door to each cell; no mopping needed.

Oh. That wouldn't stop the need for mopping. Every tile inside of the cell would still become dirty when wet.

Though if you block the showerhead in with a drain (or wall) on every side you could at least minimize it to one single tile that they would have to come in and mop up. Theoretically at least (it might dirty up the drain tiles too).

Maybe I worded it badly...I didn’t mean the cells wouldn't get dirty, I meant that it will confine the water to the inside of the cell and prevent the water from flooding the corridors. The water drains quickly and the janitors won’t rush to mop it up. As for the janitors and prison labour being overburdened cleaning the cells, it’s never been a problem for me.

[Fox]

From what ive read it doesnt work to put the drain directly below the showerhead, since thy dont remove water, but prevent it from floating on that tile... so thats what i did (or more doing atm):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1449179118
a little niche of 2 tiles with Drain in the outer, so its max. 1 sqare that gotta be cleaned extra coz of showers... managable!

[RagingRumskullian]

Originally posted by Fox:

From what ive read it doesnt work to put the drain directly below the showerhead, since thy dont remove water, but prevent it from floating on that tile... so thats what i did (or more doing atm):
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1449179118
a little niche of 2 tiles with Drain in the outer, so its max. 1 sqare that gotta be cleaned extra coz of showers... managable!

Putting the drain below the showerhead works fine for me.

[Fox]

Originally posted by simtom1500:

Putting the drain below the showerhead works fine for me.

In terms of functional showers or for not flooding the whole cell (or both?)?