Doxs and help

[Stupid Rat]

So ever since september i had never had a fair 1v1 war because in 3 minutes when the battle starts i keep getting killed by doxs no time to do anything about 50 doxs in 20 seconds will come and attack.And when i do build tanks thay get wiped out by 80 doxs what should i do?

[koimeiji]

Build your own doxs.


Sounds to me you're starting out very slow. Your commander should first build your prefered factory, then a metal extractor, then another factory. At that point, your commander should do whatever the hell it wants.

The first factory should build 1 or 2 fabbers, then output attack units. The second factory should output purely fabbers, which should focus on expanding.

The first fabbers you build should get a radar up right away, so you know where the enemy is and what possible armies are coming, without risking units.

[Stupid Rat]

thanks for the tip

[Swinging From Nosehair]

My early builds (when I have choice i.e. not Galactic War) were for commander to build:
+ 1 vehicle factory to build fabbers exclusively,
+ 2 bot factories to pump out dox.
The commander would then build electricity + storage.

The Fabbers would initially build metal & radar then metal and defensive structures as necessary.

Dox - when have a few can set 8-15 or so to go off in random directions (choose patrol and then select whole planet). Otherwise use most / all to attack enemy when you have sussed out their main camp.

[bytestream]

Rule #1 in TA-style games: Never stop producing units!

[Stupid Rat]

Escrito originalmente por 303 theshinesprites:

Build your own doxs.

Sounds to me you're starting out very slow. Your commander should first build your prefered factory, then a metal extractor, then another factory. At that point, your commander should do whatever the hell it wants.

The first factory should build 1 or 2 fabbers, then output attack units. The second factory should output purely fabbers, which should focus on expanding.

The first fabbers you build should get a radar up right away, so you know where the enemy is and what possible armies are coming, without risking units.

did not work

[Stupid Rat]

Escrito originalmente por mandrill:

My early builds (when I have choice i.e. not Galactic War) were for commander to build:
+ 1 vehicle factory to build fabbers exclusively,
+ 2 bot factories to pump out dox.
The commander would then build electricity + storage.

The Fabbers would initially build metal & radar then metal and defensive structures as necessary.

Dox - when have a few can set 8-15 or so to go off in random directions (choose patrol and then select whole planet). Otherwise use most / all to attack enemy when you have sussed out their main camp.

that did not work too . person got 7 bot factorys

[koimeiji]

Mind you, my strategy is what I use against AIs.

[Stupid Rat]

Escrito originalmente por 303 theshinesprites:

Mind you, my strategy is what I use against AIs.

ok

[bytestream]

A typical single planet 1v1 start would be:
Let your commander build:
1. vehicle (small planets) or bot factory (medium or larger planets)
2. mex
3. build an air factory (normal or large planets) or a second ground unit factory
4. queue up a bunch of pgens till your energy income is stable
5. queue up 5+ more land factories (which pump out units on loop as soon as their are completed)

Your first factory should:
1. produce 2-3 combat units
2. produce fabbers on loop

Your second factory should:
1. produce 2-3 fighters to scout (air) or nothing (land factory or if you don't have enough metal spots near by)
2. produce fighters (air) or combat units (land) on loop once your eco is stable

The first fabbers from your first land factory should:
1. build a radar
2. expand by building mexes (either individually or as a team of two)
3. assist your commander

From there on it all depends on which planet you are on and how the match evolves.

You also should only build defence structures if you are 100% certain that your opponent will have to deal with them if he wants to attack you. Use them to block chock points you know he has to pass to get to you, not to cover your base.

[koimeiji]

If they're rushing you with dox, I suggest getting some defenses set up fast. Get a few turrets, then rush tanks.


If there's multiple planets, try to get orbital ASAP and take over another planet completely. Make sure you remove all traces of your orbital launcher after you leave, though, if the enemy hasn't found out.

[Swinging From Nosehair]

Escrito originalmente por Dwarf Killer:

Escrito originalmente por mandrill:

My early builds (when I have choice i.e. not Galactic War) were for commander to build:
+ 1 vehicle factory to build fabbers exclusively,
+ 2 bot factories to pump out dox.
The commander would then build electricity + storage.

The Fabbers would initially build metal & radar then metal and defensive structures as necessary.

Dox - when have a few can set 8-15 or so to go off in random directions (choose patrol and then select whole planet). Otherwise use most / all to attack enemy when you have sussed out their main camp.

that did not work too . person got 7 bot factorys

So he had 7 bot factories and nothing else?
The advice was for the first couple of mins. As someone else stated - you have to continue to expand. So from my advice, once you have the electrics & mex keeping up, you need to increase your factories & therefore increase your dex / tanks etc output. IF you don;t keep resources balanced you will have stunted output.

[>=)]

The best way to defeat your opponent is to learn from them. Study opponents' strategies who beat you and learn what they did right and what you did wrong. Try different strategies too. Heck go build 7 of your own factories and see how that plays out. Keep trying more strategies until you find the best build order that suits your style of play. I'd recommend to start out with Bots to counter your opponent's Bots and to buy yourself time to upgrade to Vehicles (early but not too early) and if they commit to Bots then you should be able to get enough Vehicles up to decimate the Doxs if your initial Doxs buy you enough time.

[Stupid Rat]

k i think i got a good strategy
thanks for all the help

[Kryoclasm]

Ants kill dox's easy, build more ants. :)

[Stupid Rat]

Escrito originalmente por Kryoclasm:

Ants kill dox's easy, build more ants. :)

i know :)