Why is this game so difficult?

[iain.zor]

I wouldn't say I'm a complete noob at RTS games but I do fall into the casual crowd. That being said, the difficulty in this game needs to be adjusted for people, like me, who are still getting their barrings straight. My friend and I just tried to play a game together against a single AI (set on normal difficulty). We proceeded to get completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥. The AI can multitask at a level beyond my meer human brain and about 5 minutes into the game it becomes all about defending while also trying to get a good offense set up, which becomes even more difficult when the enemy can afford to build an army or bombers and take out my energy and metal plants.

I know there is a guide on here talking about the proper way to play, but my initial experience with this game has been stressful and not fun at all, and I know a lot of people won't go looking for a strategy guide right away. At the end of the game mentioned above, the computer had about 100 times the resources of my friend and I combined.

For the love of fun, please add an easy difficulty, or at least scale the current difficulties back a little. The premiss of this game sounds SO fun but my experience so far has been pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Inari]

Use economic modifier.

[HaydenJD]

Games being adjusted for, like you say, people like you are the reason they stop being challenging. Play on a lower difficulty if you need to. Games very rarely these days need to be genuinely nerfed in terms of difficulty.

[Mike]

Have you tried playing with acutal people it is quite fun and alot easier. I do not mean to be rude also. :]

[Buxaroo]

Well the one thing you need to take into account is the economy of the game is based very much on the classic Supreme Commander (not the sequel which was a total piece of ♥♥♥♥ that toomk out the one thing that the first had that made it great: an intelligent economy), so it takes a bit getting used to if your not familiar with the first SC. I haven't played much yet, just bought it few hours ago, and playing the Galactic Warfare thing, I got my ass handed to me on my first 2 battles. I was smiling ear to ear when it happened to, but then again I love challenges :)

[Herodotus]

Actually hang played both "SC', it's EP "FA" and "SC2" I preferred the sequel overall. Better looking and a challenging AI that wasn't overly difficult to beat - just enough to make it hard even on EASY. The maps stood out as being far better too, though I know I am a minority in this - doesn't bother me as I quite often fly in the face of the more popular. I too am more casual these days (the fifth decade of gaming slows you a bit, and time is a factor) and don't like the idea of wanting to hit my monitor when zerged from the get-go. Unhappily, I'll wait and see with this one as I'm yet to be convoinced. Drop the need to be online for SP and I'll reach for my wallet though.

[Slimurgical (Stormy)]

Dude... I personaly am what one would call a real gamer, I've played over 100 different games, not all of them are even on steam or even sold anymore. Among them, I've played C&C red Alert 1 and 2, tiberiuan sun, C&C 3, the non red alert one, I've played Age of Empires and every sequel with the expansions and I've played Starcraft 1 and 2 over and over since i was literally 12 (I'm 21 now).

Alongside that, I've played Dune 2000, Emperor: Battle For Dune and Every Dawn of War game that's ever released thus far (save for the expansions of #2 because I kinda doubt they're unmissable for the game, which is more or less interesting, but a neutered version of the original 1st game)

Now with all that... experience, you'd think this game would be a cinch for me to learn right? Wrong. The game pretty much is disorienting, has nothing in the way of a tutorial, the lowest difficulty kicks your ass.

Play with people, those who either suck as much as you and i do (possibly for the you part, absolutely for me), or just... my point is... NEVER play this game with AI to start out. It's absolutely terrible as the AI is pretty much only there to help one get better, however one can't do so easily when the game refuses to open a game, due to stupid design.

[Buxaroo]

I've just got through playing in Galactic Warfare, and I find it relatively easy. Just need to prioritize economy to start off, then build 20 tanks/20 AA/20 close range, and then build AA guns to keep the AI from flying above you, and build T2 stuff and viola. I have already gotten 12 fights in without losing my commander. I find it pretty easy once you get the hang of it. Once you get a sizable army, just move the fleet of 40-60 units and patrol them around the planet and you will kill their bases in short order.

I don't see what the difficulty is. SC:FA is the best example of how this game plays, but instead of a flat map, its a planet. I find it easy. Just don't turtle, you will always lose that way.

[Tamerlane]

For the first couple of plays it seems hard but after you get used to it, it's pretty easy. Just don't build fliers for your workers early game otherwise the A.I will wipe them out. I just use bot workers first and it's easy going after that.

I pretty much turtle, for the heck of it, every game and surround my large base with orbital platforms and turrets just to see if the A.I. can get through but they never can. Always fun sending a dozen orbital laser, nukes and a moon all at once into the A.I. base.

[Quitch]

引用自 iain.zor：

I know there is a guide on here talking about the proper way to play, but my initial experience with this game has been stressful and not fun at all, and I know a lot of people won't go looking for a strategy guide right away. At the end of the game mentioned above, the computer had about 100 times the resources of my friend and I combined.

I'm assuming that's my Foundations of Good Play guide. There was supposed to be a video in there too, but the link was broken and has since been fixed. You might find that useful as it's easier to visualise this stuff when you see someone else do it against the AI.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=276909362

That said, I agree there needs to be a gentler introduction, but it is planned. The developer behind the AI has said he intends for it to be very customisable, it's simply that the AI isn't finished yet and that is currently taking priority. In the mean time reducing the economic multiplier for the AI to 0.5 should help ease you in.

[Astra]

引用自 TAW StormyFacade：

Dude... I personaly am what one would call a real gamer, I've played over 100 different games, not all of them are even on steam or even sold anymore. Among them, I've played C&C red Alert 1 and 2, tiberiuan sun, C&C 3, the non red alert one, I've played Age of Empires and every sequel with the expansions and I've played Starcraft 1 and 2 over and over since i was literally 12 (I'm 21 now).

Alongside that, I've played Dune 2000, Emperor: Battle For Dune and Every Dawn of War game that's ever released thus far (save for the expansions of #2 because I kinda doubt they're unmissable for the game, which is more or less interesting, but a neutered version of the original 1st game)

Now with all that... experience, you'd think this game would be a cinch for me to learn right? Wrong. The game pretty much is disorienting, has nothing in the way of a tutorial, the lowest difficulty kicks your ass.

Play with people, those who either suck as much as you and i do (possibly for the you part, absolutely for me), or just... my point is... NEVER play this game with AI to start out. It's absolutely terrible as the AI is pretty much only there to help one get better, however one can't do so easily when the game refuses to open a game, due to stupid design.

I just spended 2 hours over my first game, while it was hard as ♥♥♥♥ to keep my defense up (rather to keep my resources going) I find it kinda fun. It took me 90mins just to figure out the enemy wasn't even on my planet to begin with.

The only thing I'd say needs better explenation is on how to go to other planets, it's rather difficult in the sense that some actions need left click and some need right click for example when you want to pick a unit up and drop it off somewhere else.

[Astra]

引用自 Quitch：

引用自 iain.zor：

I know there is a guide on here talking about the proper way to play, but my initial experience with this game has been stressful and not fun at all, and I know a lot of people won't go looking for a strategy guide right away. At the end of the game mentioned above, the computer had about 100 times the resources of my friend and I combined.

I'm assuming that's my Foundations of Good Play guide. There was supposed to be a video in there too, but the link was broken and has since been fixed. You might find that useful as it's easier to visualise this stuff when you see someone else do it against the AI.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=276909362

That said, I agree there needs to be a gentler introduction, but it is planned. The developer behind the AI has said he intends for it to be very customisable, it's simply that the AI isn't finished yet and that is currently taking priority. In the mean time reducing the economic multiplier for the AI to 0.5 should help ease you in.

With or without the guide, the game is rather hard due the enemy having acces to all technology while you are limited to 4.

[Quitch]

That's not "the game", that's Galactic War. The entire point is you're supposed to track down technology to build up to bigger battles.

Skirmish mode is hidden, counter-intuitively, behind the Multiplayer button.

[Lutrich]

There is plenty of guides out there, I wouldn't say I'm any good at the game, but I understand what's going on :D But anyway, heres a video guide that I found WAY too late:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fq_-8P_ZnfM

*Hopes link will actually work*