Combat tips?

[Silentkit]

Hi everybody,

I see a lot of people saying combat is manageable, but I just hit a HUGE difficulty spike quite early in the game. I'm at the point where I have to go into the Cistern and cross the mushroom field, and I'm starting to think that I should have found a better weapon or something at this point (I'm still rocking the cracked tube). I know I can't just run straight into a group of enemies and attack, but I always get surrounded and am having a hell of a time trying to pick them off one by one. Seriously, this game is impossible, but I want to enjoy it (and I'm even playing on easy!) Any help here?

[beez-one]

Cracked tube, dude, seriously?

1. Check your inventory ASAP because you should have something more interesting by this point.

2. Don't forget to upgrade your armor and your weapon

3. Don't hesitate to use Nail gun (it does helluva damage) and grenades (if you have them). Craft some nail gun ammo from time to time.

4. Try to attack from behind and if outnumered run in circles and wait for them to make missed attack - this should open a short window for one-two hits.

[Silentkit]

What other weapon should I have in my inventory at this point? Also, I gave back my nail gun after that part where you beat the mole queen, and I would love to be able to craft grenades but I used those too...

[beez-one]

You mean you never hide your weapons in water drill area? You definitely should get them back BEFORE you go to Cistern (talk to that mustache guy near merchant). And look for Mole Bone weapon in your inventory (or something I don't remember its name) I think it should be there.

[Youneedawee]

You are right there is a pretty big spike in difficulty at the beginning.

At this point in time would start practicing using the sand throwing ability, I use this every fight, there's is almost always 1-2 in groups that don't have any head gear. Also set your follower on defense, while not very strong, Innocence will buy you alot of time distracting several goons.

The idea is to incapacitate a good number while working on 1-2 at a time, almost every encounter you will have atleast 2 goons on you that will sync their attacks to disrupt you.

Be patient, wait for a counter and while he is momentarily staggered, tee off on the other guy before he can attack. Throw in some guard breaking attacks also so they don't adapt to your chaining.
Repeat this while continually blinding people whenever you are able.

Remember that blinded opponents will still swing while stationary and CAN damage his allies, so position them accordingly.

[SKN The LISPer]

The way I did it(without the nail gun!) was this:

first room: I sneaked to the left and smacked the first mole in stealth, then just went on attacking and killing them while innocence hold off 2-3 moles, after my 2 were dead innocence "died" causing them to storm at me, so I basically kited them(hit, run, hit, run and so forth).

Second room I sneaked to the corpse looted the grenade, sneaked behind the big guy and placed a mine, then smacked him and jumped back and generally just focused on killing the big guy(and threw a greneade when they were all clustered together at some point) first then the small ones(also make sure not to walk too far into the room or you'll get 2-3 extra guys).

After those 2 rooms it's generally not too hard.

[Egro]

Spend your skills points, upgrate your weapon and armor. Set your companions order to defend, and moles are blind from birth where do you think your sand will hit when you throw 'em.
Kill 1 by 1 while Inocence is drawing the majority of attention away from you.
But you will want to do all the sidequest first, they'll give you gears and useful stuffs. Or just buy better gears from the traders.
I finished the game on medium, and only die 3 or 4 times. You'll live if you do not shy from spending your serums and items.

[Youneedawee]

Sorry I should have read first before posting about general combat. The 2 mole rooms are tough, I died alot until I got past it, but everyone else is giving sound advice.

[Silentkit]

Thanks guys. I actually feel like a total moron...I was level 10 but only had all of my skills at level 1 because I didn't realize I had to upgrade them twice to unlock the next level in the skill tree. I figured they would just unlock when I reached a certain character level or point in the game or something...stupid! But yeah, I had about 10 skill points just sitting there that I could use. Should be OK now!

[Quitch]

You can sneak past the entire first set of moles, no need to fight them at all. The second group, keep the fight near the entrance, if you push into the cave more come out of the ground.

[sven]

I find target locking often helps with creatures that are a lot tougher and are easier to defeat by hiting them in the back (like those armoured dogs and the shield guards), the target lock makes dodging around them a breeze.

[BGK]

Replaying this game in extreme mode,
The first room is quite easy as you can kill them all one by one, sneak and attack from behind when they're alone and PREVENT THEM FROM ALETING THEIR FRIENDS by attacking them when they try to make this loud shout that wakes up and alerts every mole in the room.

The second room, well it was nealy impossible in extreme mode so, i went back, finished the quest that gives you the trap bomb plan, made 10 of those and planted 10 trap bombs at the same spot, ran in the room making ninja rolls to pop/aggro them all, made a nice mole ball and lured them all to the traps; BOOM. Next thing i know i got one injured suvivor to finish.

[Jᴧgᴧ]

Much of the combat in the first third of this game is identical to the Witcher - attack, attack, roll, then rinse and repeat.

It does get a bit more interesting after you get technomancy, raise your stealth skills a bit, enhance dodging and parrying, etc. You'll find yourself rolling a lot less and actually engaging a lot more.

Protip - enhance rolling via a skill and instead of moving around by running in combat, just roll to the new position. Much quicker. Seems unintuitive since running on your feet would be quicker in RL, but that's how the game does it.

[Azør]

beez-one eredeti hozzászólása:

Cracked tube, dude, seriously?

1. Check your inventory ASAP because you should have something more interesting by this point.

2. Don't forget to upgrade your armor and your weapon

3. Don't hesitate to use Nail gun (it does helluva damage) and grenades (if you have them). Craft some nail gun ammo from time to time.

4. Try to attack from behind and if outnumered run in circles and wait for them to make missed attack - this should open a short window for one-two hits.

there is nothing else lmao

[beez-one]

10 years old necro thread, good job.

[Ponyeater]

beez-one eredeti hozzászólása:

10 years old necro thread, good job.

I'll make it 11.