Crystal Guardians
Joel Feb 5, 2024 @ 11:06am
Difficulty - nowhere close to beating wave 20
I've reached wave 20 (the lone big dude) four times. The best I've done is gotten him down to about half health before he killed me. The other 3 times I managed to get him down to about 3/4 health. So, I'm miles off killing him.

Is there something else I should be trying? Right now all I can do is play to level 20, lose, get 1 level to unlock stuff. It feels very grindy and not fun.
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timgamedeveloper  [developer] Feb 5, 2024 @ 12:04pm 
Hey you are right, I have adjusted the exp levels a bit in version 0.1.2. It should be less grindy now. Which also means that level 20 should be more attainable since you can unlock more progression!
Joel Feb 5, 2024 @ 4:24pm 
Originally posted by timgamedeveloper:
Hey you are right, I have adjusted the exp levels a bit in version 0.1.2. It should be less grindy now. Which also means that level 20 should be more attainable since you can unlock more progression!

Sounds good - thanks! I wanted to also mention, it felt weird that to respec our upgrades it costs XP/levels... or at least, that's not something I've come across in a game before!
Juice Feb 5, 2024 @ 4:36pm 
I also recommend getting the stun item, having a few of those on a rapid-fire tower alongside a frost rain tower will allow your damage dealer towers to really lay into him.
SPEEDKING Feb 6, 2024 @ 11:45pm 
It took me 3 tries, but the third time I easily beat him. Was a mix of luck, skill, and simply getting more powerful.

I had a really good setup and level layout for him and had gotten several good items. I added a few towers further out in his path and swapped powerful items into the towers that could actually hit him. And I specced hard into electric gems so I could do massive damage with a few turrets.
Only way I have beaten him is with stun or that 150% relic for bosses. Otherwise its a zero win at 20. Best i have been able to nock off is 5 bars
Silver Feb 7, 2024 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by timgamedeveloper:
Hey you are right, I have adjusted the exp levels a bit in version 0.1.2. It should be less grindy now. Which also means that level 20 should be more attainable since you can unlock more progression!

Hey this game is pretty fun so far but you do need to adjust the xp gains a bit more. I am level 39 and I can do an entire run until the horse wave (which is insanely hard btw) and not even get HALF a level. No matter what level you are if you at least grind out 20 or 30+ stages you should at LEAST get one level otherwise grinding loses all appeal as it's way too tedious and long. Hopefully you see this!
timgamedeveloper  [developer] Feb 7, 2024 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by Silver:
Originally posted by timgamedeveloper:
Hey you are right, I have adjusted the exp levels a bit in version 0.1.2. It should be less grindy now. Which also means that level 20 should be more attainable since you can unlock more progression!

Hey this game is pretty fun so far but you do need to adjust the xp gains a bit more. I am level 39 and I can do an entire run until the horse wave (which is insanely hard btw) and not even get HALF a level. No matter what level you are if you at least grind out 20 or 30+ stages you should at LEAST get one level otherwise grinding loses all appeal as it's way too tedious and long. Hopefully you see this!

Hey you are indeed right, I adjusted it a bit more. Hopefully its good now :)
Silver Feb 7, 2024 @ 8:53pm 
Originally posted by timgamedeveloper:
Hey you are indeed right, I adjusted it a bit more. Hopefully its good now :)

Wow thank you for the prompt response and fix! :)
Jez Feb 13, 2024 @ 12:08am 
If you push through the earth crystal tree and put them on lightning towers it works really well.
deathcaster Aug 17, 2024 @ 12:19pm 
I have reached level 20 many times, always die. Game is grindy seems to just be about luck. But whatever the case, not fun for me. I like tower defense games that do not rely on luck.

just my opinion.
Target Practice Aug 18, 2024 @ 9:45pm 
Originally posted by deathcaster:
I have reached level 20 many times, always die. Game is grindy seems to just be about luck. But whatever the case, not fun for me. I like tower defense games that do not rely on luck.

just my opinion.

Wave 20 in 2 Lane Hard Mode seems to be almost impossible as it currently is. But so far the rest of the modes are fine. Just like Every other TD there is some grinding.
deathcaster Aug 23, 2024 @ 4:54pm 
Downloaded the patch today 8/23/2024, at first I thought it was worse, but I forgot to reallocate my points.... with the new tower and items I got to wave 30, but did not win.

I can now get to wave 45-50 pretty consistently, but I cannot get past 50.
Last edited by deathcaster; Aug 27, 2024 @ 4:45pm
Fecal Gambit Aug 31, 2024 @ 12:44pm 
Even after maxing out progression tree, Wave 20 two-lane seems to be the ultimate filter of if your build is either busted or a guaranteed loss, no inbetween. This boss feels disproportionally tanky for wave 20 and the only times win was plausible is with exceptional RNG, not even getting early reds sometimes is enough. I guess the only strategy I did not try is stripping all of my towers of items and allocating all of them on only the boss lane, feels a bit inconvenient but maybe that is the one way to guarantee a win.

Maybe this would be more doable without that kind of hassle if we had access to seeing what enemies are weak/resistant to what damage, but the enemy catalogue is still a work in progress.
Last edited by Fecal Gambit; Aug 31, 2024 @ 12:45pm
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