Pro Tip: Commando Backup perk affects Gunslinger weapons.

[SolviteSekai]

Gunslinger = Useless.

[jong]

Gunslinger is not useless, but this is the way I've been leveling gunslinger from the start. level 17 gunslinger just by going commando. Add single fire with backup and the m1911 two shots clots in the body, oneshots bloats heads off.

[Rascal]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Gunslinger = Useless.

You don't even have it at 25 yet. How can you call it useless?

[SolviteSekai]

Originally posted by Squirrel:

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Gunslinger = Useless.

You don't even have it at 25 yet. How can you call it useless?

Because its common ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense.

[Rascal]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Originally posted by Squirrel:

You don't even have it at 25 yet. How can you call it useless?

Because its common ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense.

Not really. I'm 24 and i've been having a much easier time dealing with harder difficulties then as a commando.

[Franco]

Are you sure? I dont see any difference in dmg.

[Ninja Turtles]

I'd like confirmation

inb4 it works but TWi says big no no to fun and changes it to 9mm only

[Rascal]

Originally posted by Ninja Turtles:

I'd like confirmation

inb4 it works but TWi says big no no to fun and changes it to 9mm only

Regardless, the .500 is only 3 blocks and makes for a fairly decent off-perk.

[SolviteSekai]

Originally posted by Squirrel:

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Because its common ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense.

Not really. I'm 24 and i've been having a much easier time dealing with harder difficulties then as a commando.

Anecdotal evidence will never beat statistics. You are probably just bad at commando.

If you take the damage away, gunslinger really only has stumble for utility.

Commando using Gunslinger weapons does more damage than gunslinger and still has Commando's utility.

Originally posted by Franco:

Are you sure? I dont see any difference in dmg.

Ive heard it doesnt work with dual wield.

Originally posted by Ninja Turtles:

I'd like confirmation

inb4 it works but TWi says big no no to fun and changes it to 9mm only

It has and always will work with medic pistol.

[Rascal]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Originally posted by Squirrel:

Not really. I'm 24 and i've been having a much easier time dealing with harder difficulties then as a commando.

Anecdotal evidence will never beat statistics. You are probably just bad at commando.

If you take the damage away, gunslinger really only has stumble for utility.

Commando using Gunslinger weapons does more damage than gunslinger and still has Commando's utility.

Do you have another account or something?

[SolviteSekai]

Originally posted by Squirrel:

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Anecdotal evidence will never beat statistics. You are probably just bad at commando.

If you take the damage away, gunslinger really only has stumble for utility.

Commando using Gunslinger weapons does more damage than gunslinger and still has Commando's utility.

Do you have another account or something?

No but I understand math.

[Physalis]

Originally posted by Franco:

Are you sure? I dont see any difference in dmg.

Me neither. Doesn't feel like a 60% damage buff.

[Rascal]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Originally posted by Squirrel:

Do you have another account or something?

No but I understand math.

You have little time put into this game. You can't tell someone that they are bad with something if you can't par with what they are at. That's like telling a pro Basketball player that they suck when you don't have legs. From the look of your achievement progress, you seem to not have above level 10 on Commando. However, I will not point out your skill level with the perk becuase I have not seen you play.

Also, if you do have them, can I see the stats for the weapons?

[SolviteSekai]

Originally posted by Squirrel:

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

No but I understand math.

You have little time put into this game. You can't tell someone that they are bad with something if you can't par with what they are at. That's like telling a pro Basketball player that they suck when you don't have legs. From the look of your achievement progress, you seem to not have above level 10 on Commando. However, I will not point out your skill level with the perk becuase I have not seen you play.

Also, if you do have them, can I see the stats for the weapons?

Your skill doesnt trump raw statistics. The only way a gunslinger can get above 60 percent damage increase is by stacking headshots and being level 25.

Commando gets that and also Commando ♥♥♥♥.

[Rascal]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Originally posted by Squirrel:

You have little time put into this game. You can't tell someone that they are bad with something if you can't par with what they are at. That's like telling a pro Basketball player that they suck when you don't have legs. From the look of your achievement progress, you seem to not have above level 10 on Commando. However, I will not point out your skill level with the perk becuase I have not seen you play.

Also, if you do have them, can I see the stats for the weapons?

Your skill doesnt trump raw statistics. The only way a gunslinger can get above 60 percent damage increase is by stacking headshots and being level 25.

Commando gets that and also Commando ♥♥♥♥.

Care to provide me those raw statistics as you clearly seem to be heavily focusing on?

[Infinity]

Originally posted by SolviteSekai:

Originally posted by Squirrel:

You have little time put into this game. You can't tell someone that they are bad with something if you can't par with what they are at. That's like telling a pro Basketball player that they suck when you don't have legs. From the look of your achievement progress, you seem to not have above level 10 on Commando. However, I will not point out your skill level with the perk becuase I have not seen you play.

Also, if you do have them, can I see the stats for the weapons?

Your skill doesnt trump raw statistics. The only way a gunslinger can get above 60 percent damage increase is by stacking headshots and being level 25.

Commando gets that and also Commando ♥♥♥♥.

This is getting kinda funny.

Thing is, based on the tests I just ran I didn't notice any difference.

I can probablly run a cheat mode and have the AI just stand around picking there nose to know for sure, but even so I have no idea why any commando would cripple himself by using gunslingers weapons even with a buff that large. Reload time alone for HoE would be abysmal.

Time for drunk science.