Berserkers, Pulverizers Smash perk, and Explosions!

[Pizza Cat]

For the sake of the discussion, say the Zweihandler is unavailable.

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I AM ASKING ABOUT DAMAGE, NOT KNOCKDOWN
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Using the Pulverizor with the smash perk active.
"Smash: Brute force it: Hard hits do 25% more damage AND hard hits to the head have a high chance to knock big Zeds down."

The argument with this one is if you attempt to do the hard hit with the Pulverizor while it has ammo loaded, and does the explosive damage, that it will not gain the buff from smash.

Is that true or false? Hopping from game to game, people keep telling me either way.
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I AM ASKING ABOUT DAMAGE, NOT KNOCKDOWN
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Another question:

With the scrake and Hans only taking 50% damage from explosives but taking the full 100% damage from Bludgeon based attacks, wouldn't it better to go at them with an empty clip?

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I AM ASKING ABOUT DAMAGE, NOT KNOCKDOWN
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[q3.railgun]

It does, but the issue is that the damage type is explosive thus only calculates against body knockdown resistance. This is for online/dedicated.

In offline/solo the calculations seem to occur separately so you are able to get direct head damage with the explosive pulv.

[Pizza Cat]

Originally posted by q3.railgun:

It does, but the issue is that the damage type is explosive thus only calculates against body knockdown resistance. This is for online/dedicated.

In offline/solo the calculations seem to occur separately so you are able to get direct head damage with the explosive pulv.

So that would make the attack just a single explosive attack, rather than bludgeon + explosive while online?

[q3.railgun]

I unfortunately don't know the full details. It's like a mixup of everything. You still get a head shot multiplier (1.1x) if you do aim for the head but the damage calculation (bludgeon and explosive) and any resistances all take from the torso.

[Duol]

It has to be a bug if it works offline, but not online

[baddog993]

Pulverizor with ammo will not cause a knockdown at least online. I have tested this out. Try without ammo using Pulverzor for a hard hit will get a knockdown. With ammo no knockdown.

I personally think fighting Hans its better with an unloaded clip to cause a knockdown on Hans. I have done this trick before on Hans online.

[Duol]

Originally posted by baddog993:

Pulverizor with ammo will not cause a knockdown at least online. I have tested this out. Try without ammo using Pulverzor for a hard hit will get a knockdown. With ammo no knockdown.

I personally think fighting Hans its better with an unloaded clip to cause a knockdown on Hans. I have done this trick before on Hans online.

You can still get knockdowns with "v" and a loaded pulverizer. Might take some practice though

[Pizza Cat]

ok I understand the knockdown thing but the real question was DAMAGE

[Quarterblack]

What EXACTLY are you asking about here?

[Pizza Cat]

Originally posted by McSlur:

What EXACTLY are you asking about here?

Originally posted by Demon Cat Lord:

ok I understand the knockdown thing but the real question was DAMAGE

[Pizza Cat]

does the 30% more damage apply to the Pulverizer's explosive attack?

[simple cat]

No. Only on melee part of attack. Its also 25% more damage, not 30.

[Pizza Cat]

yeah i got that number off the wiki.

[Pizza Cat]

Originally posted by simple cat:

No. Only on melee part of attack. Its also 25% more damage, not 30.

wait so is it melee + 25% + explosive damage?

[simple cat]

Yes, melee with 25% bonus + explosion.

However passive damage bonus applied at both - blunt melee and explosion

[Pizza Cat]

Thanks for your info guys!