Can Commando please get a new starting weapon?

[Grif]

Don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with the AR-15 Para 9MM( I happen to have the mint stories of war for it) Other than the fact that it's not technically a true assault rifle.

It's actually a converted assault rifle into a pistol round, So technically it's closer to an smg.
(Which is what the killing floor 2 imfdb Classes it under) So i think it should be SWAT's starting weapon and commando should get something along the lines of an Mini-14 or traditional AR-15 But should be something chambered in .223 not 5.56 to still balance it with the bullpup.

[Lord Duckington]

Originally posted by A Cute Kitty:

I want a M1 Garand for the Commando, or a Grand. Might as well give it to the sharpshooter if it doesn't work for Commandos. I've got a hardon for enblocks.

Just thinking about that wonderful pling sound

[A Cute Kitty]

Originally posted by Marcelofdeath:

Originally posted by A Cute Kitty:

I want a M1 Garand for the Commando, or a Grand. Might as well give it to the sharpshooter if it doesn't work for Commandos. I've got a hardon for enblocks.

Just thinking about that wonderful pling sound

Exactly. Musical Orgasms Left and Right.

[Rascal]

Some Tier 1 replacements for Commando:

• Sub-2000
  
• Daewoo K7
  
• Famas F1
  
• Ruger Mini-14
  
• OTs-12
  
• Steyr AUG Para
  
• Cx4 Storm

[Two Clicks]

They shouldnt replace - but add parallel weapons that are more or less the same for each tier. And allow players to choose their starting weapons in the perk selection screen.

Originally posted by Peristhetic:

Some Tier 1 replacements for Commando:

• Sub-2000
  
• Daewoo K7
  
• Famas F1
  
• Ruger Mini-14
  
• OTs-12
  
• Steyr AUG Para
  
• Cx4 Storm

Some of these are pretty good alternatives. Which ones have 3 rnd burst or single shot capability?

[Rascal]

Originally posted by Two Clicks:

They shouldnt replace - but add parallel weapons that are more or less the same for each tier. And allow players to choose their starting weapons in the perk selection screen.

Originally posted by Peristhetic:

Some Tier 1 replacements for Commando:

• Sub-2000
  
• Daewoo K7
  
• Famas F1
  
• Ruger Mini-14
  
• OTs-12
  
• Steyr AUG Para
  
• Cx4 Storm

Some of these are pretty good alternatives. Which ones have 3 rnd burst or single shot capability?

Famas, Cx4, Para, K7 and possibly the OTs-12.

I haven't actually seen the OTs-12 in a game, as far as I know, and figured it would be a decent starter weapon.
http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/oc-12-thiess-e.html

[omegaskorpion]

Originally posted by Peristhetic:

Originally posted by Two Clicks:

They shouldnt replace - but add parallel weapons that are more or less the same for each tier. And allow players to choose their starting weapons in the perk selection screen.





Some of these are pretty good alternatives. Which ones have 3 rnd burst or single shot capability?

Famas, Cx4, Para, K7 and possibly the OTs-12.

I haven't actually seen the OTs-12 in a game, as far as I know, and figured it would be a decent starter weapon.
http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/oc-12-thiess-e.html

In my oppinion the commando starting weapon does not need to be burst or single shot weapon, so long as it has smaller mag and maybe slightly less damage than Bullpup, then it can be automatic.

Most of those weapons listed are usualy associated as smg and AUG would be wonderfull later tier weapon, ruger would propably be cheaper and weaker alternative for the M14 (for shaprshooter).

And just like you mentioned, the OTs-12 would be perfect starting weapon, as it has smaller mag size and debatable damage output. It would not be as strong as the other ones but it fits as starting weapon.

[Rascal]

Originally posted by omegaskorpion:

Originally posted by Peristhetic:

Famas, Cx4, Para, K7 and possibly the OTs-12.

I haven't actually seen the OTs-12 in a game, as far as I know, and figured it would be a decent starter weapon.
http://world.guns.ru/assault/rus/oc-12-thiess-e.html

In my oppinion the commando starting weapon does not need to be burst or single shot weapon, so long as it has smaller mag and maybe slightly less damage than Bullpup, then it can be automatic.

Most of those weapons listed are usualy associated as smg and AUG would be wonderfull later tier weapon, ruger would propably be cheaper and weaker alternative for the M14 (for shaprshooter).

And just like you mentioned, the OTs-12 would be perfect starting weapon, as it has smaller mag size and debatable damage output. It would not be as strong as the other ones but it fits as starting weapon.

Actually, the AR-15 in this game is the Colt 9mm SMG [www.colt.com]. I tried to pick some guns that are in similar fasion. Both the Para and K7 have assault rifle variants.

[omegaskorpion]

Originally posted by Peristhetic:

Originally posted by omegaskorpion:

In my oppinion the commando starting weapon does not need to be burst or single shot weapon, so long as it has smaller mag and maybe slightly less damage than Bullpup, then it can be automatic.

Most of those weapons listed are usualy associated as smg and AUG would be wonderfull later tier weapon, ruger would propably be cheaper and weaker alternative for the M14 (for shaprshooter).

And just like you mentioned, the OTs-12 would be perfect starting weapon, as it has smaller mag size and debatable damage output. It would not be as strong as the other ones but it fits as starting weapon.

Actually, the AR-15 in this game is the Colt 9mm SMG [www.colt.com]. I tried to pick some guns that are in similar fasion. Both the Para and K7 have assault rifle variants.

Yeah, i know that the AR-15 in this game is the smg variant.
And while its good and all that you chosed to search similar weapons, they would be more suitable for swat (as would the Colt 9mm SMG) . However rifles as always suit the commando and the OTs-12 is a realy good suggestion.

[Rascal]

Originally posted by omegaskorpion:

Originally posted by Peristhetic:

Actually, the AR-15 in this game is the Colt 9mm SMG [www.colt.com]. I tried to pick some guns that are in similar fasion. Both the Para and K7 have assault rifle variants.

Yeah, i know that the AR-15 in this game is the smg variant.
And while its good and all that you chosed to search similar weapons, they would be more suitable for swat (as would the Colt 9mm SMG) . However rifles as always suit the commando and the OTs-12 is a realy good suggestion.

I really just hope that Tripwire adds a bunch more uncommon weapons that hardly get any screen time.

[Polaris]

I kinda want to see something like a semi-auto AR15 rather than this current one, make it hit harder, but it's single fire. Some of the other suggestions sounded good to me, could keep this weak varmint as a generic weapon or something for level 0 spawns on each class, and have more options as you get your level up, maybe in 5 level brackets? Another idea would be to lose the varmint, downgrade the bullpup and add a Thompson .45...it would still fit the Commando's combat style of a fast weapon, it wouldn't be the strongest (keep the SKAR where it is) but it could have more ammo available as a sort of alternative Commando weapon to make up for some of the smallish-medium sized mags he has to contend with.