BLOAT decapitation

[Cabbage Devourer 420]

is it part of the update that zerkers cant get insta decapitations on an bloat because i cant do it anymore

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You need a Pulverizer or Zwei at least, the Smash skill will help on higher difficulties, aim a rushing heavy attack directly at the head, and it should work.

Berserker melee damage overall got toned down, let alone the melee hitboxes, so melee decaps actually take quite a bit of precision now

[BlackSpawn]

Melee hitboxes were also tweaked?

[BROLY 32]

Zwei and pulv ? People actually still use these weapons on zerk ?

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Nguyên văn bởi BlackSpawn:

Melee hitboxes were also tweaked?

I mained Berserker back in v1004, and been playing it almost every patch since. When I picked up the game again sometime after the Sharp update, my swings weren't as long, nor as wide, let alone enemy head hitboxes being EXTREMELY particular. Go into a test map, spawnzed sc, and test the angles at which you'll actually hit the head with a vertical swing, it's a little frustrating

[chaloopah]

I saw no change in melee hitboxes, using crovel on trash+bloat on HoE is my preference as it's a 3 hit decap for bloat or a two hit decap with the zwei/no ammo pulverizer heavy hit.
But correct, bloats will not be decapped as easily with weapons anymore since they were buffed a bit due to implementation of resistances.

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Nguyên văn bởi chaloopah:

I saw no change in melee hitboxes, using crovel on trash+bloat on HoE is my preference as it's a 3 hit decap for bloat or a two hit decap with the zwei/no ammo pulverizer heavy hit.
But correct, bloats will not be decapped as easily with weapons anymore since they were buffed a bit due to implementation of resistances.

They toned down a lot of the resistances a while ago, a Zwei/Pulv heavy hit to the head will decap a bloat, you just need to aim it correctly, a precision requirement that wasn't really present with the old melee hitboxes

[Zep]

Nguyên văn bởi BROLY 32:

Zwei and pulv ? People actually still use these weapons on zerk ?

People who play zerk a lot and understand don't, but there are quite a few players that still use them. I don't know if its cause they like the look or feel of the weapons, but the eviscerator is the most effective zerk weapon available imo.

[Popusa]

Nguyên văn bởi Zep:

Nguyên văn bởi BROLY 32:

Zwei and pulv ? People actually still use these weapons on zerk ?

People who play zerk a lot and understand don't, but there are quite a few players that still use them. I don't know if its cause they like the look or feel of the weapons, but the eviscerator is the most effective zerk weapon available imo.

As a zerk main, I prefer zweihander over the pulverizer and eviserator becuase of:

1.completely infinite ammo

2.a lighter weapon that allows me to support a teammate by carrying an extra weapon for them.

3. Becuase, it's the most fun zerk weapon out of all of them.

[SamEstine]

Nguyên văn bởi Popsi:

Nguyên văn bởi Zep:

People who play zerk a lot and understand don't, but there are quite a few players that still use them. I don't know if its cause they like the look or feel of the weapons, but the eviscerator is the most effective zerk weapon available imo.

As a zerk main, I prefer zweihander over the pulverizer and eviserator becuase of:

1.completely infinite ammo

2.a lighter weapon that allows me to support a teammate by carrying an extra weapon for them.

3. Becuase, it's the most fun zerk weapon out of all of them.

All of this.

And let me ask: Does the Eviscerator benefit from zerker's perk abilities? Such as hard hits, light swing speed and so on? I'd like to know, but I believe it doesn't, that's why I pick zwei / pulv over the EV.

Also, to OP: Specifying the difficulty you're playing at and weapons you use would help.

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Nguyên văn bởi Sarcastic Sam:

All of this.

And let me ask: Does the Eviscerator benefit from zerker's perk abilities? Such as hard hits, light swing speed and so on? I'd like to know, but I believe it doesn't, that's why I pick zwei / pulv over the EV.

Also, to OP: Specifying the difficulty you're playing at and weapons you use would help.

That guy doesn't know what he's talking about, as both the Pulv and Zwei do the same damage against scrakes, and Zwei does little to nothing against FP

Evis is very strong, decaps SC and FP in 3-4 headshots

[Popusa]

Nguyên văn bởi Berke:

Nguyên văn bởi Sarcastic Sam:

All of this.

And let me ask: Does the Eviscerator benefit from zerker's perk abilities? Such as hard hits, light swing speed and so on? I'd like to know, but I believe it doesn't, that's why I pick zwei / pulv over the EV.

Also, to OP: Specifying the difficulty you're playing at and weapons you use would help.

That guy doesn't know what he's talking about, as both the Pulv and Zwei do the same damage against scrakes, and Zwei does little to nothing against FP

Evis is very strong, decaps SC and FP in 3-4 headshots

I know both pulvi and zwei do the same damage against scrakes AND fleshpounds as well.

It takes 5 zwei hard headshots on a 6man HoE scrake to decap, and 7 for a fleshpound.

Meanwhile, it takes 6 pulvi explosive hits for scrakes(becuase of the explosive resistance), and 7 for fleshpounds.

I test this stuff a lot and keep it in mind.

Also, eviserator is fun to use, but not as fun as zwei. I don't know, I just find a two-handed sword more appealing to use than a saw blade lanucher with a chainsaw at it's end.

Even if the evis is strong, it carries little ammo,weighs a lot, and it's bash hit isn't that great against medium level zeds.

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Nguyên văn bởi Popsi:

It takes 5 zwei hard headshots on a 6man HoE scrake to decap, and 7 for a fleshpound.

Do you have any footage of you doing this against a live scrake? Not spawnzed sc, but one that's moving around.

I say that the Pulv and Zwei do the same damage because of how ridiculously precise the head hitboxes have become on scrakes, and decapping them with 5-6 consecutive swings is practically theoretical

The evis decaps scrakes in 3 hits, fleshpounds in 4, and carries 30 blades, that's pretty close to Sharp/Gunslinger level of ammo efficiency

[the fun police]

Nguyên văn bởi Zep:

Nguyên văn bởi BROLY 32:

Zwei and pulv ? People actually still use these weapons on zerk ?

People who play zerk a lot and understand don't, but there are quite a few players that still use them. I don't know if its cause they like the look or feel of the weapons, but the eviscerator is the most effective zerk weapon available imo.

exept it has poor sync with zerk melee perks. i mean really its kind of trend, as the nailgun is the worst weapon in the game for many reasons, it being a zerk weapon is one of them.

plus the evicerator dosnt play to the zerks core strengths, survivability and ultra efficiency. half a team can die and the zurk can still clean up the wave and pick up slack without needing to worry about ammo.

i get that its strong, but it dosnt feel like it should be a core zerk weapon. maby something relesed in an updaate instead.

[Spidey]

jump and swoosh.

[Popusa]

Nguyên văn bởi Berke:

Nguyên văn bởi Popsi:

It takes 5 zwei hard headshots on a 6man HoE scrake to decap, and 7 for a fleshpound.

Do you have any footage of you doing this against a live scrake? Not spawnzed sc, but one that's moving around.

No, I don't have any footage and I will never have becuase of my slow uploading speed.

Open up your test map, spawn 5 faked players, spawn a scrake, grab a zweihander, and test it yourslef.