I don't find Hell on Earth fun.

[Rascal]

First off, I like Killing Floor 2's style on Hell on Earth and sparing you the stuff about resistance, I can't play HoE without going from a smile to a frown in less than a second. As soon as the Crawlers, Stalkers and Sirens show up and teleport right in my face and turning me into a human ping pong ball, I lose any fun i've had playing this game.
I normally played Suicidal or HoE for fun after the Incinerate N' Detonate update when I maxed all my perks and had quite a bit of fun, the teleporting ZEDs was still annoying but it wasn't coupled with useless melee bash and player knockback.

When player knockback was added, I stopped playing HoE altogether because it was so annoying to deal with. I can still play the maps on HoE but I usually just die or leave because of how annoying the gameplay becomes.

I recently decided to suck it up and try HoE during this preview, played a medium as Zerk and got shredded by a single gorefast that trapped me in a corner because of knockback

I'm not asking for HoE to be easy but it could do with real difficulty where I don't have a handicap. Now don't get me wrong, I like this game, I just want a proper challenge where when I beat the map I feel accomplished and not, "Ugh, finally... now I don't have to play that again."

[Johnson]

Of course you can't find fun by use the weakest perk(Zerk) in HoE

[Rascal]

Originally posted by Johnson:

Of course you can't find fun by use the weakest perk(Zerk) in HoE

I don't find it weak. Actually, I find the Pulv stronger then it was previously.

[Johnson]

Originally posted by Moist:

Originally posted by Johnson:

Of course you can't find fun by use the weakest perk(Zerk) in HoE

I don't find it weak. Actually, I find the Pulv stronger then it was previously.

You are playing 1033 right?
BTW pulv ammo got Nerf
How come stronger

[Rascal]

Originally posted by Johnson:

Originally posted by Moist:

I don't find it weak. Actually, I find the Pulv stronger then it was previously.

You are playing 1033 right?

Yeah but with the preview.

[JimmyIowa]

Agreed, they need to drastically tone down (or remove) teleport/spawninyourface. I think that would cut down on the sheer aggravating anti-fun factor while letting the new resistances make the difficulty higher to balance the teleport removal.

[Bear with Potatoes]

HOE is not fun for me because everyone who plays it has their heads so far up their own asses you can't have any fun.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Bear with Potatoes:

HOE is not fun for me because everyone who plays it has their heads so far up their own asses you can't have any fun.

Only reason I have no interest in jumping on it, I felt comfort with Sui last week, figured I could try HOE but man do I even want to try that bs? :(

[Bear with Potatoes]

Originally posted by Ze'Tai:

Originally posted by Bear with Potatoes:

HOE is not fun for me because everyone who plays it has their heads so far up their own asses you can't have any fun.

Only reason I have no interest in jumping on it, I felt comfort with Sui last week, figured I could try HOE but man do I even want to try that bs? :(

Unless you have friends that want to play for fun I would not bother.

[Witch of Diamonds]

I honestly only enjoy HOE when playing with friends now.

I will credit the resistances with just one thing at least: they're the only annoying feature that makes the game harder in a fair(?) way.

Resistances? Sure, it's harder, but at least it is so in a plain manner. No tricks, no smoke and mirrors, nothing like that. It's not what I'd call "cheap". Annoying? Yes. Cheap? Not really, not when compared to other things.

Meanwhile, knockback?
Oh yeah, my tall strong fit German war veteran, weighed down by his weapons and gear, gets swiped by a crawler paw and goes flying three metres across the room. Really? No.

Meanwhile, teleporting?
Oh yeah, that Siren I set on fire and ran past six seconds ago in the Paris subway has now magically appeared in front of me at the cafe, still burning. NO SHE DIDN'T TELEPORT, SHE RAN AT LIGHT SPEED AROUND THE OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP WHILE BURNING TO CATCH YOU HERE. Really? No.

Honestly, at times I feel like HOE is only as hard as it is not because of genuine challenge, but because of gimmicky nonsense like that.

Oh, and before some wiseguy comes running up and says LMAO I BET UR JUST COMPLAINING BECUZ YOU CANT GET GUD XDDDD, check my stats and then shut the hell up.

[CursedPanther]

Originally posted by TheRedColonel:

I honestly only enjoy HOE when playing with friends now.

That's pretty much the idea since day one. HoE never works with a random team which everyone tries to do his own thing despite being all level 25.

[Witch of Diamonds]

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

Originally posted by TheRedColonel:

I honestly only enjoy HOE when playing with friends now.

That's pretty much the idea since day one. HoE never works with a random team which everyone tries to do his own thing despite being all level 25.

No I wouldn't say that.
I've seen pubbie HOE games go down where nobody knows anybody but we manage to get down and keep it down and win the match. It's rare, but it happens, when the right people coincidentally come together.

[prop]

I just hope that they fix zeds teleporting. And Im okay with any other future patches

[「wew」]

HoE isn't for everyone but with a good group it's enjoyable
I find the HoE 'artificial difficulty' to be lame which spoils the experience due to predictability.

[Squeakret Squirrel]

It's understandble you don't like it considering it's the diffculty that's ment to test your knowledge of the meta of the game.

Just play the game at the diffculty that feel's the best for you and leave the highst one to those that feel they have something prove, I mean what are you missing execpt an achivement that does absolutely nothing?

Now if none of the other diffculties sate the challenge you need and HoE is too hard/tricky that's a pretty big problem and an issue of having diffculties that have far too big a differnce from each other only really fixable by adding more diffculites.

[Bear with Potatoes]

Originally posted by Player 2:

It's understandble you don't like it considering it's the diffculty that's ment to test your knowledge of the meta of the game.

Just play the game at the diffculty that feel's the best for you and leave the highst one to those that feel they have something prove, I mean what are you missing execpt an achivement that does absolutely nothing?

Now if none of the other diffculties sate the challenge you need and HoE is too hard/tricky that's a pretty big problem and an issue of having diffculties that have far too big a differnce from each other only really fixable by adding more diffculites.

The problem is the people who want to prove themselves they are garbage but think they are the best because they play HOE. You can solo HOE with a katana and they are up everyone's asses about how good they are.