PC & PS4 crossplay

[»SoD« Mike Hunt]

Why not allow customs servers to have the option of accepting PC/PS4 players on a server?

Balancing could be represented as modifiers for health/damage etc.

[»SoD« Mike Hunt]

Messaggio originale di TWMolly:

We will be balancing the two versions separately, so there will be no cross play.

Why not let custom servers allow crossplay?

[B the Self]

Messaggio originale di Mike Hunt:

Messaggio originale di TWMolly:

We will be balancing the two versions separately, so there will be no cross play.

Why not let custom servers allow crossplay?

no

[FALLENV3GAS]

Messaggio originale di Mike Hunt:

Messaggio originale di TWMolly:

We will be balancing the two versions separately, so there will be no cross play.

Why not let custom servers allow crossplay?

A person from TWI just said it wont happen. End the thread.

[Molly]

Glad to hear that there will be no crossplay. Does this mean that TW doesn't have the tech, or does it mean something entirely different?

We really wouldn't want console balance affecting PC balance and vice versa, this would be the case if there were crossplay. It's not just just time and effort. The two versions of the game would have to be balanced the same. This means any issues either platforms have would have to be worked out keeping the other in mind. This isn't ideal.

[Izziee]

Messaggio originale di CmanOne:

Messaggio originale di Mike Hunt:

Why not allow customs servers to have the option of accepting PC/PS4 players on a server?

No.
Console and PC is generally different worlds. Since the attitude toward the game and ending with the politeness of communication. And somewhere between these things is a game skill. I do not want to offend someone, but PC is a kind of "major league" to the console players. They are half of job does aim assist. The border between consoles and PC is a line, where amusements ends, and begins cybersport.
Overall PC player just does not understand a console player. This applies to everything - attitude to hardware, the criteria for assessing the game quality, ability to play in a team, communication skills, responsibility, etc. All this (and more) completely different for console and PC players.

These worlds must be shared and isolated from each one.

You've never played a console this generation have you? Sure, tell me you got a PS4 or whatever but the fact you mention "aim assist" like it actually makes the game easier, implies you haven't played one.

I've always been a PC gamer, in fact, I've always been a computer gamer in general, sure I owned an atari 2600, master system and megadrive etc but I always preferred computers - Atari ST, Amiga 600, Com64, Vic 20 etc etc...

I owned a PS2 and Ps3 but never touched them, like, maybe 50 hours in total of the Ps3's lifespan. Then I got a PS4 and things changed. Playing shooters on console is 10x HARDER, NOT easier. This ignorant myth about "aim assist" is just that, ignorant. Destiny has it to some degree but the gunplay in that game rivals many PC games, and even surpasses them.

I have Bf4 on PC and decided to get it for PS4 since it was super cheap, and also have it in EA Access on Xbone - I can't kill ♥♥♥♥ to save my life, yet I'm damn good on PC. Overwatch is so much harder on console, that's why widowmaker and other characters that need precision are played a lot less compared to their PC counterparts.

I have over 900 hours in planetside 2 on PC, yet still find it a lot harder on console to come even close to what I can on PC. I have hundreds of hours in borderlands, BL2 and TPS...easy on PC, not (as) easy on console.

for 90% of games aim assist doesn't do what many people seem to think it does. It doesn't lock on to characters for _most_ games (CoD might I think if you ADS with the crosshair already on them) and it's so childish to constantly see so called "pc gamers" bash on them. I'm fairly new to the console world (maybe 2 years of PS4 and Xbox one but barely touched PS3 and never owned any ther xbox) and it's become increasily embarrassing to see the self entitled master race. Embarrassing to actually be a PC gamer.

ALSO, there are plenty of Cross-play titles. Rocket league, Final fantasy online, Forza Horizon 3 etc Microsoft have called for developers to consider it in most of their upcoming games.

You're right, A lot of PC gamers don't understand console gamers, and that's not a good thing, it's embarrassing to see self entitled master race know so little. Also playing Overwatch on Ps4 is a much more fun experience because there's FAR FAR less toxicity, people are often trying to add me as a friend after matches, it's on a complete fair playing field (for the most part, except for Xim4 and tactical commander users).

However, KF2 is not OW and Blizzard have the time, resources and dedication to balance both versions seperately, but I really do not see KF2 going down that route. It's not a good idea for this game.

[»SoD« Mike Hunt]

Messaggio originale di TWMolly:

Glad to hear that there will be no crossplay. Does this mean that TW doesn't have the tech, or does it mean something entirely different?

We really wouldn't want console balance affecting PC balance and vice versa, this would be the case if there were crossplay. It's not just just time and effort. The two versions of the game would have to be balanced the same. This means any issues either platforms have would have to be worked out keeping the other in mind. This isn't ideal.

On custom servers the admin could select either or have both systems so console players get a little boost.

[B the Self]

Messaggio originale di Mike Hunt:

Messaggio originale di TWMolly:

We really wouldn't want console balance affecting PC balance and vice versa, this would be the case if there were crossplay. It's not just just time and effort. The two versions of the game would have to be balanced the same. This means any issues either platforms have would have to be worked out keeping the other in mind. This isn't ideal.

On custom servers the admin could select either or have both systems so console players get a little boost.

no

[CmanOne]

Messaggio originale di Izziee:

Messaggio originale di CmanOne:

No.
Console and PC is generally different worlds. Since the attitude toward the game and ending with the politeness of communication. And somewhere between these things is a game skill. I do not want to offend someone, but PC is a kind of "major league" to the console players. They are half of job does aim assist. The border between consoles and PC is a line, where amusements ends, and begins cybersport.
Overall PC player just does not understand a console player. This applies to everything - attitude to hardware, the criteria for assessing the game quality, ability to play in a team, communication skills, responsibility, etc. All this (and more) completely different for console and PC players.

These worlds must be shared and isolated from each one.

You've never played a console this generation have you? Sure, tell me you got a PS4

1. Do not be me in something to convince. If i write, I just want to play separately from consolers, objections write it in the first place.
2. Do not say what you are good / smart / skillful, etc. It's not interesting. Moreover, more skilled players than the PC you will not ever.
3. Moving from a PC to the console - this is degradation. Do not ask why. For those who will never do it, everything is clear.
4. Do not speak the superiority of consoles over PCs. It's just not. It is enough to understand that the console games are developed on a PC.
5. Do not talk about graphics and FPS. You just do not understand the essence of multiplayer games. FPS - is the tenth in the list of what is needed.
6. No need to brag about how many hours you have played enough in a particular game. It's not interesting. And always on the PC will be the one who has enough of 10 times more than you, but do not brag about it.
7. No need to talk about quality graphics, a super opportunities of the years of the release of some T-rashbox. When you're writing, you're smiling just makes PC users.
8. All your achievements, your aspirations, emotions, etc. worthless. Because they simply programmed by developers in the course of the balancing of the game. You console gamers - just casual players. For you to set a limit beyond which you will not jump. You will always be mediocre players, and it will never change.
9. Do not give examples of "good" cross-platform games. It's just a game-outsiders. Tomorrow about them, no one will remember.
10. It is not necessary to discuss the development. They give you only what is sold on the market. And the corresponding price. You will pay for your* mediocrity, and always will be.
11. And please, do not need ANY discussion. Everyone has long been clear. You do not understand us, and we do not understand you (or rather, we understand, but do not accept). Just go to your console's ghetto. And stay there. Forever.

[Stellifera]

Sure cross play will be fun. To be honest it will never happen. Sure it may be disappointing but oh well.

[Izziee]

Messaggio originale di CmanOne:

Messaggio originale di Izziee:

You've never played a console this generation have you? Sure, tell me you got a PS4

1. Do not be me in something to convince. If i write, I just want to play separately from consolers, objections write it in the first place.
2. Do not say what you are good / smart / skillful, etc. It's not interesting. Moreover, more skilled players than the PC you will not ever.
3. Moving from a PC to the console - this is degradation. Do not ask why. For those who will never do it, everything is clear.
4. Do not speak the superiority of consoles over PCs. It's just not. It is enough to understand that the console games are developed on a PC.
5. Do not talk about graphics and FPS. You just do not understand the essence of multiplayer games. FPS - is the tenth in the list of what is needed.
6. No need to brag about how many hours you have played enough in a particular game. It's not interesting. And always on the PC will be the one who has enough of 10 times more than you, but do not brag about it.
7. No need to talk about quality graphics, a super opportunities of the years of the release of some T-rashbox. When you're writing, you're smiling just makes PC users.
8. All your achievements, your aspirations, emotions, etc. worthless. Because they simply programmed by developers in the course of the balancing of the game. You console gamers - just casual players. For you to set a limit beyond which you will not jump. You will always be mediocre players, and it will never change.
9. Do not give examples of "good" cross-platform games. It's just a game-outsiders. Tomorrow about them, no one will remember.
10. It is not necessary to discuss the development. They give you only what is sold on the market. And the corresponding price. You will pay for your* mediocrity, and always will be.
11. And please, do not need ANY discussion. Everyone has long been clear. You do not understand us, and we do not understand you (or rather, we understand, but do not accept). Just go to your console's ghetto. And stay there. Forever.

So that complete incoherent pile of gibberish just basically enforces my point that you haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

I like the part you try to assume I'm a console player though, despite making it clear I'm a PC player above all else, but again you just reinforce my point that you haven't got a single clue what you're talking about and show nothing but complete ignorance and lack of understanding. Do continue jumping on the bandwagon and repeating what you heard some other random user said without actually having a clue what their talking about. You are the definition of so many things, PC gamer is not one of those.

Also, google translate made a mess of that rubbish.

[CmanOne]

Messaggio originale di Izziee:

Also, google translate made a mess of that rubbish.

Yes, he's bad. Sorry for my bad english. As for the rest - nothing to talk about. I do not need trying to pull me into a discussion. And what I said, no one over-persuade me. It's my point.

[Nisse]

Messaggio originale di CmanOne:

Console and PC is generally different worlds. Since the attitude toward the game and ending with the politeness of communication. And somewhere between these things is a game skill. I do not want to offend someone, but PC is a kind of "major league" to the console players. They are half of job does aim assist. The border between consoles and PC is a line, where amusements ends, and begins cybersport.
Overall PC player just does not understand a console player. This applies to everything - attitude to hardware, the criteria for assessing the game quality, ability to play in a team, communication skills, responsibility, etc. All this (and more) completely different for console and PC players.

These worlds must be shared and isolated from each one.

Apartheid mentality in gaming form.

[»SoD« Mike Hunt]

I thought technical issues would be the barrier but it seems to be more down to elitism.

[Heru Ra Ha]

Messaggio originale di Mike Hunt:

I thought technical issues would be the barrier but it seems to be more down to elitism.

When the player numbers get lower, the same people who talk about superiority of pc vs console ( which isn't even the subject) will cry for crossplay.

[»SoD« Mike Hunt]

Messaggio originale di Satans Almighty Penis:

Messaggio originale di Mike Hunt:

I thought technical issues would be the barrier but it seems to be more down to elitism.

When the player numbers get lower, the same people who talk about superiority of pc vs console ( which isn't even the subject) will cry for crossplay.

Exactly, and we're already seeing a decline in the number of people playing on the big max player custom servers.