Matriarch is still too OP

[Fade Rev]

Shes almost impossible to beat on sui and hoe..out of the 10 encounter ive had with her, ive managed to beat her once

[Dark Savior]

Sounds like you need a better team.
Her main weakness is to use cover.
I find her much easier than Hans.
I was able to beat her with a 0 upgrade shovel on HOE, so it is possible with the right strategy.

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

Even on normal mode shes a pain in the ass. I feel like I’m fighting a Remnant:FtA boss with all the Edar spawns. They wouldnt be that bad if she didn’t spawn infinite of them.

[advanced pallet user]

ye on 5-6 man hoe she can really destroy if u make 1 mistake

[Just Aaron]

I don`t think she`s too hard when playing solo on Suicidal. Just find a vehicle or something of similar size. Run circles around it. Most of her attacks will miss. The only problem I have are the Edars.

[Dark Savior]

Originally posted by William See:

Even on normal mode shes a pain in the ass. I feel like I’m fighting a Remnant:FtA boss with all the Edar spawns. They wouldnt be that bad if she didn’t spawn infinite of them.

EDAR spawns are not infinite.
There is a set number of them.

Abonimation is the only boss with infinite green minions.

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

Originally posted by Dark Savior:

Originally posted by William See:

Even on normal mode shes a pain in the ass. I feel like I’m fighting a Remnant:FtA boss with all the Edar spawns. They wouldnt be that bad if she didn’t spawn infinite of them.

EDAR spawns are not infinite.
There is a set number of them.

Abonimation is the only boss with infinite green minions.

...I'm being hyperbolic, I know they're not infinite. There is A LOT.

[Tiretracker]

My only suggestion would be to decrease the range of the laser. Getting sniped from across the map isn't my idea of a fun fight.

[Blue]

The only thing I find annoying is the chain lightning attack. If your teammates don't hide fast enough and they get hit, it'll bounce from them to you and everybody else around, so you end up with the entire team dead/nearly dead. It punishes you for having bad teammates and is nearly unavoidable unless you stay away from the team.

There is also the big AoE blast that can kill you through walls so you have to be completely outside the range of the attack. While there is a brief charge up period, I'm not a big fan of attacks you can't avoid by ducking behind cover.

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

Originally posted by Blue:

The only thing I find annoying is the chain lightning attack. If your teammates don't hide fast enough and they get hit, it'll bounce from them to you and everybody else around, so you end up with the entire team dead/nearly dead. It punishes you for having bad teammates and is nearly unavoidable unless you stay away from the team.

There is also the big AoE blast that can kill you through walls so you have to be completely outside the range of the attack. While there is a brief charge up period, I'm not a big fan of attacks you can't avoid by ducking behind cover.

I think everyone groups up to feel protected and avoid being the sole target, since bosses prioritize targets based on damage and proximity. That being said her attack wind ups are just a little too quick and require some serious coordination to dodge

[Mochan]

Matriarch is hard at first when you don't understand her yet.

She is actually the easiest boss to beat in my opinion.

The main problem with Matriarch is her plasma cannon. It can kill you in one shot at higher difficulties with enough teammates if you don't have cover. The solution is simple. Always stick to some kind of obstacle that can be used as cover. Corners are good. Phonebooths, tables, anything. As long as it breaks the straight line between you and her it will block her plasma cannon.

Without the cannon she is nothing. She is big and easy to hit. She moves pretty slow and her tentacle is easy to dodge. You can run circles around her all day while shooting her head. The shield was daunting at first but after you learn how to fight her it'll go down quick, and if you're using high penetration weapons like railguns and the crossbow (crossbow is amazing against her) she will die pretty fast.

[Mochan]

Originally posted by William See:

Even on normal mode shes a pain in the ass. I feel like I’m fighting a Remnant:FtA boss with all the Edar spawns. They wouldnt be that bad if she didn’t spawn infinite of them.

I can kill Matriarch in Normal mode in under a minute with a crossbow. She dies before her first Edar even manages to show up.

She is not hard once you learn how to fight her. If you are having problems beating her on Normal of all things you just need to learn how to fight her better dodge. At that difficulty you can run around a phone booth, a car or a tree forever and she will literally never catch you. In higher difficulties she moves faster so it's a little harder, but in Normal she isn't even a threat to be honest and on the off chance she hits you the damage is so small you can run away and heal up easy.

[MrSuneko]

To me I can avoid her easily in lot maps than others. E.D.A.R.S are the ones I focus heavily when playing in a team game.

[The Fountaineer 🖋]

Originally posted by Mochan:

Originally posted by William See:

Even on normal mode shes a pain in the ass. I feel like I’m fighting a Remnant:FtA boss with all the Edar spawns. They wouldnt be that bad if she didn’t spawn infinite of them.

I can kill Matriarch in Normal mode in under a minute with a crossbow. She dies before her first Edar even manages to show up.

She is not hard once you learn how to fight her. If you are having problems beating her on Normal of all things you just need to learn how to fight her better dodge. At that difficulty you can run around a phone booth, a car or a tree forever and she will literally never catch you. In higher difficulties she moves faster so it's a little harder, but in Normal she isn't even a threat to be honest and on the off chance she hits you the damage is so small you can run away and heal up easy.

Not saying she's killed me on Normal, just really annoying with the adds and attack tracking. Honestly I think the one thing that'd make her fight fun is nerfing the edars spawns. I don't have a huge issue with them like some people here do (on regular waves), but in a hoard they just feel cheap and sloggish to get through, especially for non-shooty dedicated classes like Zerk or Demo

[Mochan]

Fair enough dealing with a horde of EDAR is a pain even with a sharpshooter or gunslinger. Regardless the key to beating Matriarch is to learn how to dodge her attacks. Not too hard even on Suicidal. It's really only on HOE that she's a big issue. I do agree that in Suicidal and HOE the EDAR spawns are more dangerous than she is. An EDAR Trapper that nabs in you HOE while she is chasing you is pretty much a death sentence.

[Dark Savior]

I find that hords of EDARs pretty easy to handle as long as you have a gun with bullets.
Once you kill your first EDARS the rest of them dies like dominoes.
The EMP they emit will basically make the rest of the EDARs sitting ducks.