Will there be Killing Floor 3?

[GMCasper]

hi everyone does anyone know if there will be a Killing Floor 3?

jen just thinks the game could get mega cool if it ran on unreal engine 5

Or is it just me?

[Serious]

There is no official info about KF3 and i won't expect info as long as they support kf2.
Who would buy stuff for kf2 e.g. the new season pass when you know the new kf3 is just a year away.

And towards UE5
Don't expect the a game build with UE5 to look like the demo you know. The demo is more than 100GB and it's prerendered. The rec. spec. is e.g. GTX 2080 and so on.
The demo is not a "how all the games will look like" but a "what's possible with UE5".
Some of the features are not even available at the current 5.0.1 and some will be usable only at movies and other pre rendered projects.

UE5 is nice, and we will have many good games using it. But don't expect to much just because it's a new engine.
The important changes from UE3 to UE4 were much more important as the changes from UE4.27 to UE5, esp. for medium quality hardware and below.
This only counts for gaming of course. The changes for simulation, VR or other more industrial software are very awesome.

[The Law]

I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hope not. The devs butchered this game since early access and giving them another excuse to give us hope in exchange for bad content and DLC's is just daydreaming. Don't trick yourself into supporting them even if the (unannounced) game looks good on UE5.
Hatred apart, I've heard them talking about a """Next Game""" in an interview:
https://youtu.be/i4dWBQLFDyg?t=64

[Aya]

Originally posted by Serious:

UE5 is nice, and we will have many good games using it. But don't expect to much just because it's a new engine.
The important changes from UE3 to UE4 were much more important as the changes from UE4.27 to UE5, esp. for medium quality hardware and below.
This only counts for gaming of course. The changes for simulation, VR or other more industrial software are very awesome.

The problem with using Unreal Engine 4 for KF3 is that UE4 is already nearing End of Life. If KF3 were to use UE4, it'd suffer from the same performance loss over time as KF2 did due to the current game's usage of Unreal Engine 3, an engine that released back in 2006 when Gears of War 1 first released on the Xbox 360.

Unreal Engine 5 would be the more ideal pick for Killing Floor 3, since the newer engine should ideally be able to handle the addition of newer content a lot better than an older engine can. If we do get UE5 on KF3, we wouldn't even be close to hitting a content ceiling on launch, unlike KF2 which pushed the absolute hard limits of Unreal Engine 3 during its 2016 release.

[Serious]

Originally posted by Aya:

Originally posted by Serious:

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The problem with using Unreal Engine 4 for KF3 is that UE4 is already nearing End of Life. If KF3 were to use UE4, it'd suffer from the same performance loss over time as KF2 did due to the current game's usage of Unreal Engine 3, an engine that released back in 2006 when Gears of War 1 first released on the Xbox 360.

Unreal Engine 5 would be the more ideal pick for Killing Floor 3, since the newer engine should ideally be able to handle the addition of newer content a lot better than an older engine can. If we do get UE5 on KF3, we wouldn't even be close to hitting a content ceiling on launch, unlike KF2 which pushed the absolute hard limits of Unreal Engine 3 during its 2016 release.

This is so wrong i don't even know where to start^^
The performance loss has nothing to do with UE3. It's only the design of implementation. It's obvious they never thought about adding so many weapons and skins during primary implenetiation. And they added and added without reworking the initial design.

The code of kf2 got butchered over the years and the change from unreal script to c++ wouldn't change this. There are good design solution to prevent this. But they had to implement it during the core implementation of the inventory.

Additional a upgrade from UE3 to UE4 would result in almost complete rebuild of pretty much everything. While the upgrade from UE4.23+ to UE5 is pretty easy.

or to say it very simple: A new engine is no proof for a good implementation. Even the best engine on the best computer can break with a simple endless loop (without errorhandling).

[Winters]

All ik is that devs confirmed it on a podcast like last year lol

[Eze]

Originally posted by Aya:

Originally posted by Serious:

UE5 is nice, and we will have many good games using it. But don't expect to much just because it's a new engine.
The important changes from UE3 to UE4 were much more important as the changes from UE4.27 to UE5, esp. for medium quality hardware and below.
This only counts for gaming of course. The changes for simulation, VR or other more industrial software are very awesome.

The problem with using Unreal Engine 4 for KF3 is that UE4 is already nearing End of Life. If KF3 were to use UE4, it'd suffer from the same performance loss over time as KF2 did due to the current game's usage of Unreal Engine 3, an engine that released back in 2006 when Gears of War 1 first released on the Xbox 360.

Unreal Engine 5 would be the more ideal pick for Killing Floor 3, since the newer engine should ideally be able to handle the addition of newer content a lot better than an older engine can. If we do get UE5 on KF3, we wouldn't even be close to hitting a content ceiling on launch, unlike KF2 which pushed the absolute hard limits of Unreal Engine 3 during its 2016 release.

I'm sorry if this question sounds stupid, but don't you feel they use old engines because there's plenty of knowledge on how to optimize them on various hardware choices? Basically, KF2 is as accesible as a F2P game when it comes to specs, and I thought the choice of older engine than can run in a lot more on machines was a deliberate choice for that reason.

[Aya]

Originally posted by Eze:

Originally posted by Aya:

The problem with using Unreal Engine 4 for KF3 is that UE4 is already nearing End of Life. If KF3 were to use UE4, it'd suffer from the same performance loss over time as KF2 did due to the current game's usage of Unreal Engine 3, an engine that released back in 2006 when Gears of War 1 first released on the Xbox 360.

Unreal Engine 5 would be the more ideal pick for Killing Floor 3, since the newer engine should ideally be able to handle the addition of newer content a lot better than an older engine can. If we do get UE5 on KF3, we wouldn't even be close to hitting a content ceiling on launch, unlike KF2 which pushed the absolute hard limits of Unreal Engine 3 during its 2016 release.

I'm sorry if this question sounds stupid, but don't you feel they use old engines because there's plenty of knowledge on how to optimize them on various hardware choices? Basically, KF2 is as accesible as a F2P game when it comes to specs, and I thought the choice of older engine than can run in a lot more on machines was a deliberate choice for that reason.

I think the mindset at the time was to have a 60FPS PlayStation 4 game, and no one at the time really knew how to target higher framerates with UE4 and the then-current-gen consoles, not counting fighting games cuz those actually have less on-screen activity than shooters.

Fast forward to 2022, and KF2 somehow manages to have more performance issues than a 64 player Chivalry 2 game. App stability is also basically shot since trying to boot the game up is a damn coin toss now, in that the executable needs to be in a good mood if it's to actually boot up

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It will be when it will be half life 3

[Brickfrog]

Be careful what you wish for. Stalker fans have been asking for stalker 2 for almost a decade, Now microsoft owns it and we are going to get it whether we want it or not.

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by The Law:

I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hope not. The devs butchered this game since early access and giving them another excuse to give us hope in exchange for bad content and DLC's is just daydreaming. Don't trick yourself into supporting them even if the (unannounced) game looks good on UE5.
Hatred apart, I've heard them talking about a """Next Game""" in an interview:
https://youtu.be/i4dWBQLFDyg?t=64

I agree!!! It's not only the devs butchering the game, but some players (including a selected few on here, whose names I will not mention) had a hand at butchering the game too, and have the audacity to call it "balance".

[Bathtub Shitter]

Seeing the state of these updates, I wouldn't get my hopes up about kf3 any time soon. If it's ganna be developed by the same team doing these updates it's ganna be complete garbage that only appeals to zoomers and cod players.

[Serious]

The updates for kf2 the last ~2 years didnt came from TWI.
TWI payed Saber Interactive to update and mantain kf2.
While the updates where pretty mehhh they shouldn't be to costly either.
It's possible TWI work for years on kf3 and use kf2 just as funding.

Obviously not how you should treat your long time costumers, but well thats gaming today with very few exceptions.

[Dr. Heavy Pootis-Man]

Will there be tf3??

[Cheggf]

Originally posted by Serious:

Obviously not how you should treat your long time costumers, but well thats gaming today with very few exceptions.

So you should easily be able to list at least a dozen games that have had basically nothing done except add DLC weapons for several years, then.

[Serious]

Originally posted by Cheggf:

Originally posted by Serious:

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So you should easily be able to list at least a dozen games that have had basically nothing done except add DLC weapons for several years, then.

It's not about dlc weapons, it's about low quality dlc in general.
you don't have to limit it to weapons.
Just compare the dlc from Fallout 3 or NV to Fallout 4.
Fallout 3 & NV, awesomes dlc for a reasonable price even without sale.
Fallout 4, 1 good dlc, all others medium to low quality for more money.
Same with Bordlerands 2 and 3, and many other games.
Tbh, it would be more difficult to make a list of games of the last 10 years wher the dlc are actually well developed and reasonable priced.