Is the new HZ12 Multi-Action shotgun good enough for you?

[Der Rabattrammler]

So that by now everybody had time to play around with the new shotgun, I'd like to hear some opinions on how you like it and how it performs for you.

To speak my truth, I was disappointed at first.
It looks cool, has a great shot sound, is cheap and lightweight, but I felt for two reasons that it should have been better:

1. Recoil > If you look at Youtube videos of weapon testing with the original shotgun, the DP-12, there is no noticeable high recoil. Even if you fire both barrels rapidly.
So I felt that Tripwire made the recoil for quickfiring both barrels way too strong.
In my opinion that takes away half of the advantage of having a two barreled pump-action.
You still got two shots before you need to pump, but the high recoil forces you to fire the two shots slower than it needs to be.
Watch the weapon videos, there you see that the DP-12 can be shot as rapidly as a 9mm pistol without losing too much accuracy due to recoil.

2. No alternative fire > I wished for a less strong version of the boomstick's alternative both barrels you basterds blast.
Granted, the real world weapons can not do this either, but well, this is a video game so it would be possible to do.

Of course these advantages would have pushed the HZ-12 into tier three territory, maybe even tier four to rival the almighty AA-12, but honestly, I expected that weapon to be high tier.


After playing this week with Support and the HZ-12 pretty often, I have to admit that it is a pretty good and strong tier two shotgun and that I will use it as my main weapon until I can afford the AA-12 or the Medic shotgun, depending on the team composition.

Call me crazy, but I actually wish we would have two HZ-12 variants right now.
One as it is and one tier three with the advantages mentioned above to replace the M4 Combat Shotgun.
Yeah, they increased its damage with the latest patch, but seriously, I feel that the M4 is a dead horse and should be put out of its misery.

[SpidyFly]

Would much prefer the HSG from KF1.

[McCall]

at this moment the new shotgun is good as well! no changes please.....

[Rocknack]

Nah I think it's pretty good for what it is. Not necessarily meant for end game but for early waves it is easily comparable to everything we had before.

[Warlord]

It's awesome. Wish they'd put an Origin 12 in the game. Way cooler than the AA12.

[JimmyIowa]

In solo play, I am finding it quite useful for emergency doorway/hallway clearing when the inevitable mobs appear in front of me as I run. Even off perk is it useful for this, if you can spare the 5 weight. For example, I have found a gunslinger with a 2 magnum, 2 deagle, HZ12 loadout to be satisfactory on Sui+. Pistols for headshotting, switch to HZ12 when you need to kite. The majority of my kills come from on-perk pistols. But the HZ saves my life when I get face-mobbed.

Its very short range limits its usefulness as a general weapon though. As someone else pointed out, the trenchgun may sometimes be a better choice for the same weight, with burn DoT and much higher stumble power. And the odd fire-fire-pause sequence does take some getting used to.

[Ghoul Hunter]

It's OP. It has way too much ammo and clip size. The damage should be reduced a bit as well. It's like a budget AA12. I can solo 6p HoE Scrakes with it. To be fair, the DBS needs the same treatment too. It's too strong for a tier 2.

I haven't seen anyone say this yet, so I can only presume everyone is enjoying the power creep.

If Tripwire made a tier 2 assault rifle that was almost as good as the SCAR, I think the commando community would have something to say about it. The support community should be doing the same.

[JimmyIowa]

Originalmente postado por Lo Wang:

I can solo 6p HoE Scrakes with it.

Meh, the same is true of pulv, trenchgun (which does considerably more damage then HZ12, btw), crossbow, P90, etc etc, etc. All of which are t2 or t3. Not sure why you think suddenly now power creep is happening. It happened 2 years ago. Some perks, like support, are just catching up to the pack now.

[spearten.com]

Originalmente postado por Lo Wang:

It's OP. It has way too much ammo and clip size. The damage should be reduced a bit as well. It's like a budget AA12. I can solo 6p HoE Scrakes with it. To be fair, the DBS needs the same treatment too. It's too strong for a tier 2.

I haven't seen anyone say this yet, so I can only presume everyone is enjoying the power creep.

If Tripwire made a tier 2 assault rifle that was almost as good as the SCAR, I think the commando community would have something to say about it. The support community should be doing the same.

Stay away from my Boomstick.

Edit: And my HZ12.

[Terminator01]

Originalmente postado por Warlord:

It's awesome. Wish they'd put a Saiga 12 in the game. Way cooler than the AA12.

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