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Westile Mar 30, 2019 @ 6:39pm
Is Bone Crusher Worth it?
Does the block reduce damage more than other weapons?
Is shield bash even good?
Should I bother upgrading for $1,500? Seems like pitiful +damage.

Yeah I could just compare Wiki numbers or test it all in-game myself but...♥♥♥♥ that, I'll just get the community's consensus instead.
Last edited by Westile; Mar 30, 2019 @ 6:40pm
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Nodoka Mar 30, 2019 @ 6:45pm 
Originally posted by Westile:
Does the block reduce damage more than other weapons?
Is shield bash even good?
Should I bother upgrading for $1,500? Seems like pitiful +damage.

Yeah I could just compare Wiki numbers or test it all in-game myself but...♥♥♥♥ that, I'll just get the community's consensus instead.
Bone crusher has the highest damage reduction when blocking/parrying.
I always use bone crusher when playing as a tank berserker in a team because of the damage reduction and the fact that it has very high chance of knockdown ontop of using massacre to increase the rate of knockdowns due to faster attack speed. This makes it the best melee to use when you are frontlining.

If you are however more of the solo type of player then I suggest using zweihander over any other melee weapon due to the combo potential that you can pull of with it. Dont want to combo? Then use the battle axe! (Katana for trash if playing with zwei or battleaxe)
Last edited by Nodoka; Mar 30, 2019 @ 6:48pm
screeno42 Mar 30, 2019 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by Satanic | Nodoka:
Originally posted by Westile:
Does the block reduce damage more than other weapons?
Is shield bash even good?
Should I bother upgrading for $1,500? Seems like pitiful +damage.

Yeah I could just compare Wiki numbers or test it all in-game myself but...♥♥♥♥ that, I'll just get the community's consensus instead.
Bone crusher has the highest damage reduction when blocking/parrying.
I always use bone crusher when playing as a tank berserker in a team because of the damage reduction and the fact that it has very high chance of knockdown ontop of using massacre to increase the rate of knockdowns due to faster attack speed. This makes it the best melee to use when you are frontlining.
It's also the only weapon right now that can parry ranged attacks. It's really tough, but you can activate the parry skill off husk shots, EDAR rockets and lasers(I think), Hans' carbines, and even Patriarch's minigun and rockets(if you're feeling unnecessarily ballsy).
Nodoka Mar 30, 2019 @ 8:29pm 
Originally posted by screeno42:
Originally posted by Satanic | Nodoka:
Bone crusher has the highest damage reduction when blocking/parrying.
I always use bone crusher when playing as a tank berserker in a team because of the damage reduction and the fact that it has very high chance of knockdown ontop of using massacre to increase the rate of knockdowns due to faster attack speed. This makes it the best melee to use when you are frontlining.
It's also the only weapon right now that can parry ranged attacks. It's really tough, but you can activate the parry skill off husk shots, EDAR rockets and lasers(I think), Hans' carbines, and even Patriarch's minigun and rockets(if you're feeling unnecessarily ballsy).
Yes but its ideal for group play when you are the frontline, for more of a solo oriented style you are better of with other melee weapons.
Originally posted by Satanic | Nodoka:
Originally posted by Westile:
Does the block reduce damage more than other weapons?
Is shield bash even good?
Should I bother upgrading for $1,500? Seems like pitiful +damage.

Yeah I could just compare Wiki numbers or test it all in-game myself but...♥♥♥♥ that, I'll just get the community's consensus instead.
Bone crusher has the highest damage reduction when blocking/parrying.
I always use bone crusher when playing as a tank berserker in a team because of the damage reduction and the fact that it has very high chance of knockdown ontop of using massacre to increase the rate of knockdowns due to faster attack speed. This makes it the best melee to use when you are frontlining.

If you are however more of the solo type of player then I suggest using zweihander over any other melee weapon due to the combo potential that you can pull of with it. Dont want to combo? Then use the battle axe! (Katana for trash if playing with zwei or battleaxe)
eviscerator for true solo play

but the rest i agree

it's i think also the only weapon that can block rockets and husk cannon blasts (without dying lol).

IT's insanely good if you wanna be the team's tank. As the guy above said. Going all L with the exception of masscare for smash, is extremely useful. You can use it to clear trash or smash to stun/stumble big zeds (but massacre works better since your role would be tank not big zed killer).

Also has one of the most noteable and best looking skins since it has such a high surface area and is a vertially positioned shield for all to see.

The only real downside i can say is that it doesn't do much damage vs. other weapon or stun as well (Static strikers and the eviscerator or battleaxe would be much better for that).

to elaborate:
-SS (static strikers)=better for taking on big zeds and on-demand stunning via emp nade effects. On bosses, especially patty and hanz it's very VERY useful to stop them from running away or from trying to target other players. Decent block.
-eviscerator=mult-kill, penetration, reuseable/pickable saw blades, and good/decent block. Only downside is running out of ammo on the sawblades and fuel tank. Best carry a katana or crovel for when and if this happens.
-battle axe=good for big zeds and damage. Great for clearing lanes too. Bad at clearing trash for slow speed unless they're grouped up.
-bone crusher=good for listed above tank zerker. Suffers from damage but your role as a tank is blocking/stalling not dealing with bigger zeds
-pulverizer=good for clearing zeds around you with a husk-like dedonation but with explosive pellets. Bad at decaps b/c it would only stumble zeds/knock em down.
-zweilhander=best for clearing lanes of trash zeds. Slow attack but big range (on par with the battle axe but i think slightly more).
-katana=best for clearing trash and slashing. Bad for tanking compared to the bone crusher
-fireaxe=good for stunning not as good as the SS but compared to the price it's a bargin. Best to pick off medium targets with m2 and trash with m1
-nailgun=good for leeching off zed health in hoardes but it's rather quaint unless you max it out
-crovel=best for starting. Bad at blocking compared to others but strong enough to decap a rioter/gorefast/bloat early waves.
Last edited by Fumo Bnnuy n Frends; Mar 30, 2019 @ 9:06pm
the Bone Crusher is my go-to weapon whenever i'm in a team setting (even solo as well), as the damage output i'd say is the highest (with the Eviscerator tied in 2nd place).

as for team settings, I always go RLRLR if i'm in a full man match if playing on Normal and Hard and helping out some low-level guys. but if i'm playing on Suicidal or Hell-on-Earth, i'll swap out "Parry" for "Resistance", and that's mainly due to the numerous Bloats and Sirens that'll spawn more frequently
Nodoka Mar 31, 2019 @ 7:12am 
Originally posted by Mister Torgue Flexington:
the Bone Crusher is my go-to weapon whenever i'm in a team setting (even solo as well), as the damage output i'd say is the highest (with the Eviscerator tied in 2nd place).

as for team settings, I always go RLRLR if i'm in a full man match if playing on Normal and Hard and helping out some low-level guys. but if i'm playing on Suicidal or Hell-on-Earth, i'll swap out "Parry" for "Resistance", and that's mainly due to the numerous Bloats and Sirens that'll spawn more frequently
Thats not true battleaxe and zwei has much larger damage output, if you knwo how to combo with zwei it will outshine any other melee weapon in the game.
HiTmAn Mar 31, 2019 @ 7:13am 
bone crusher is very good defensive wepon if u team camp and u are basecly wall... medic heal u and other shot on zeds u hold... but for solo eviscerator is best
Originally posted by Satanic | Nodoka:
Originally posted by Mister Torgue Flexington:
the Bone Crusher is my go-to weapon whenever i'm in a team setting (even solo as well), as the damage output i'd say is the highest (with the Eviscerator tied in 2nd place).

as for team settings, I always go RLRLR if i'm in a full man match if playing on Normal and Hard and helping out some low-level guys. but if i'm playing on Suicidal or Hell-on-Earth, i'll swap out "Parry" for "Resistance", and that's mainly due to the numerous Bloats and Sirens that'll spawn more frequently
Thats not true battleaxe and zwei has much larger damage output, if you knwo how to combo with zwei it will outshine any other melee weapon in the game.

well the thing that brings down both the Battle Axe and the Zweihander (i've tried them both), is the slow swing speed. true I could use the "Massacre" skill to buff the swing speed by 5%, but one may not see much of a difference (which explains why I use "Smash" when using the Bone Crusher to stun-lock and decapitate Zeds with constant blows and shield bashes to the head)
Nodoka Mar 31, 2019 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Mister Torgue Flexington:
Originally posted by Satanic | Nodoka:
Thats not true battleaxe and zwei has much larger damage output, if you knwo how to combo with zwei it will outshine any other melee weapon in the game.

well the thing that brings down both the Battle Axe and the Zweihander (i've tried them both), is the slow swing speed. true I could use the "Massacre" skill to buff the swing speed by 5%, but one may not see much of a difference (which explains why I use "Smash" when using the Bone Crusher to stun-lock and decapitate Zeds with constant blows and shield bashes to the head)
But then you are honestly doing it wrong, you should run katana for clearing trash and use zwei or battle axe for large zeds, similar to how you use eviscerator with katana.
RRRLR is the optimal for zwei and battleaxe.
Meat Machine Mar 31, 2019 @ 3:07pm 
Whenever I use the Bone Crusher, I usually use the shield combo:

Jab (Shield Bash)
...as soon as the hitbox comes out...
Left directional heavy attack (Shield swipe)
...repeat.

Jab, heavy left swipe, jab, heavy left swipe, etc.

Heavy attacks with strong knockdown potential. The jab is accurate for headshots, and the swipe clears out waves of small zeds. If executed well, this combo swings almost as fast as a regular light attack string, but is a lot more powerful.
Blue Mar 31, 2019 @ 3:21pm 
Tbh, I prefer the battle axe. I usually knock down scrakes in like 2 hits and it 1 hit kills trash/medium zeds. It's nearly just as good for tanking too.

The gimmick of blocking rockets/husk attacks with the bone crusher isn't that good. You still take a ton of damage, especially since the rockets often don't hit directly on the shield so you take a ton of splash damage, which can still kill you. Most of the time you're better off dodging/running away from the rockets/fireball.

The battle axe has more utility at higher perk levels when you can take advantage of the increased attack speed.
Vertical Loop Mar 31, 2019 @ 5:44pm 
Due to how the targeting with the KFP works, you can tank him ad infinitum with the bone crusher if you have a buddy medic. This is true for basically any enemy, besides abomonation. Also head hits with the heavy attacks are so satisfying.
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