Sell guns for the full price

[Eldin]

It would be nice if we could sell guns and upgrades for the full price.
I always play with non upgraded starting weapon until I save enough money to get weapon I want. But if we could sell guns for full price then we could upgrade starting weapon and buy lower tier weapons in first few waves, and then sell them later without losing any money. It would also let us totally change weapon loadouts in mid game without losing money.

But if this was a thing then when we buy weapons from trader, they should be empty, to avoid exploiting this for free ammo.

It would also be cool if we could sell ammo to trader. How many times I have sold lower tier gun with hundreds of bullets for a fraction of price.


Another thing that would be cool, especially in endless mode is to buy skins at trader.
Because we have a lot of extra dosh, we could buy weapon skins and cosmetics with it (we would only have them for that match)

[[MM] Cpt_Mustard]

No

[Leon]

Originally posted by Eldin:

But if this was a thing then when we buy weapons from trader, they should be empty, to avoid exploiting this for free ammo.

support says hi.

[DrunkBunny94]

The low teir weapons (650-750 dosh) are worth buying that price tag includes about 150 worth of ammo which means if you use all of your T1 weapons ammo it's pretty worth while to sell that weapon buy your T2 as you'll have ammo and when you use that ammo ammo next wave you'll have made your money back and you can sell it for 487.

It's about as economic as buying ammo for your T1 only you get a slightly better weapon for the next wave.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

I'd be all on board with selling weapons for more if they have a practically full ammo pool

not so much for guns themselves, especially considering how teammates love selling your weapons (at least the bad/troll ones).

Not to mention T1 weapons spawn frequently so if you sell them, at least 3, at full price you could possibly pocket about $500 depending on the weapons. On maps like diesector or in endless, this would be very gamebreaking. That or teammates can lose their entire ammo, drop all their weapons and dosh, suicide, then respawn with the same weapons and more dosh while you can still sell the weapons they dropped.

tl;dr it'd be very game breaking and possibly exploited like the gun upgrade glitch that i think was the reason TWI actually lowered the resell value on upgraded weapons (basically people would buy upgraded guns, drop 1, sell 1 upgraded, buy another, pick up the also upgraded second pistol, and repeat the process for alot of extra dosh. I played in a match where 2 guys got about 10k before match 3).

[HiTmAn]

50% of full price would be resonable

[Lore?]

Originally posted by Krim Son:

No

This change would take all the skill out of loadout and money management. Instead of there being a strategic choice between a small power boost from Tier 2 or saving money for your Tier 4 there would just be a straight line between weapon tiers until you got what you needed. This along with Support's free ammo generation being inherently better with more weapons would make the game far easier as a whole.
Also everyone would play Demo first round, purely for the extra cash from selling the grenade pistol.

[Acidic__Thought]

Originally posted by Scorching Summer Ace Visconti:

Originally posted by Krim Son:

No

This change would take all the skill out of loadout and money management. Instead of there being a strategic choice between a small power boost from Tier 2 or saving money for your Tier 4 there would just be a straight line between weapon tiers until you got what you needed. This along with Support's free ammo generation being inherently better with more weapons would make the game far easier as a whole.
Also everyone would play Demo first round, purely for the extra cash from selling the grenade pistol.

Or swat for the free second pistol (drop and sell for 112) and full shield on spawn.

[Dark Savior]

Bad idea.

[Ironlixivium]

You want to sell them for full price for the exact reason we can't sell them for full price.

The point is that you choose between easy early waves for a little bit of dosh, or struggle through the early waves for free by greeding to the weapon you want to have.

By taking this out you effectively remove the choice to either take the easy road to a later t4 weapon or the hard road to an earlier t4 weapon.

It would remove a layer of the game to take that away.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by Ironlixivium:

You want to sell them for full price for the exact reason we can't sell them for full price.

The point is that you choose between easy early waves for a little bit of dosh, or struggle through the early waves for free by greeding to the weapon you want to have.

By taking this out you effectively remove the choice to either take the easy road to a later t4 weapon or the hard road to an earlier t4 weapon.

It would remove a layer of the game to take that away.

pretty much
plus i'd like to think that the trader is a greedy trader too like the KF1 trader and will buy for less but sell for more lol.
That's just how trading works. You don't make a profit off of equal trader, you make it by selling just slightly above the normal prices.

[mandachevan]

Nope

[m550]

Personally: Yes.

But in fact that's more nope than ideally should be.

Like weapon stealing, that makes more excuse for self-ish troll/griefers aggressively seeking your precious $hiet and sell it out as soon as possible.
(which makes team work even more broken than it is as now)

[Duke]

Originally posted by (TF2SP) God of Beer and Games:

plus i'd like to think that the trader is a greedy trader too like the KF1 trader and will buy for less but sell for more lol

Not buying used stuff for full price makes someone greedy? Are you 10 or something?

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by Duke:

Originally posted by (TF2SP) God of Beer and Games:

plus i'd like to think that the trader is a greedy trader too like the KF1 trader and will buy for less but sell for more lol

Not buying used stuff for full price makes someone greedy? Are you 10 or something?

it is if you ise the pawn stars method