M32 Grenade Launcher: how to get the best out of it?

[Bullett00th]

Couldn't wait for it to be added to the game but can't help but feel underwhelmed a bit.

I mean it's powerful and great for panic spamming and its weight is just right, but I seem to perform better even with the Seeker Six. Even with rapid reload there's something inconvenient about it that I just can't get my head around.

Maybe it's just me not using it properly so I'd love to hear some advice. But I haven't even seen one demo use it.

[Lyon-CZ]

Personally, i think its perfectly fine. Decent damage, but not overpowered. Quite easy to solo HoE boss with this weapon.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by Lyon-CZ:

Personally, i think its perfectly fine. Decent damage, but not overpowered. Quite easy to solo HoE boss with this weapon.

What about standard waves, especially 7+?

It seems that when big zeds start coming the RPG is a much more reliable weapon, or at least doesn't leave you with a very long reload that is hard to deal with when there's noone to cover you

[Lyon-CZ]

Of course RPG will be better choice for some situations, but you cannot carry both of them, so you have to make a decission :). Personally, i prefer M32 in combination with HX25.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by Lyon-CZ:

Of course RPG will be better choice for some situations, but you cannot carry both of them, so you have to make a decission :). Personally, i prefer M32 in combination with HX25.

do you upgrade the HX25?

I can't imagine playing demo without an M16 tbh

[Lyon-CZ]

10 players, 10 different setups, there is no "the best". Depends on the map and team perks. I like M16, but for commando for example. Just use whatever you like. Demo with anything (on perk) cannot be worse than firebug with husk cannon ;).

[Underdog]

Tier 5 rpg + c4 + off perk pistol is best. Seeker 6 in place of the rpg is pretty good, too. m32 has too little ammo and too little damage. It would need to delete a 6p HoE fp in one mag to be viable as is. Right now it's just not better than the rpg or seeker 6.

[Bullett00th]

Originally posted by Lyon-CZ:

10 players, 10 different setups, there is no "the best". Depends on the map and team perks. I like M16, but for commando for example. Just use whatever you like. Demo with anything (on perk) cannot be worse than firebug with husk cannon ;).

I understand, which is why I'm asking for setups and tactics people find viable. Too common when people have a bad persona; experience with a weapon and draw conclusions based just on that.

Originally posted by MVP:

Tier 5 rpg + c4 + off perk pistol is best. Seeker 6 in place of the rpg is pretty good, too. m32 has too little ammo and too little damage. It would need to delete a 6p HoE fp in one mag to be viable as is. Right now it's just not better than the rpg or seeker 6.

I wonder if it gets better if you focus the build on stagger/knockdown skills instead of pure damage

[Underdog]

It's gonna get up and kick your butt before you can fully reload anyway :P plus the limited ammo will be even more in effect once you limit damage

It is super fun solo or without 6p in sui/hoe though

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Did they ever fix the damn reload bug where it's not affected by reload perk skills or passives?

Anyhow, m32 pairs really really well with the all R perk skills. Ye old m32 m79 combo you can really do some trash clearing.

Wouldn't recommend all L unless you wanna focus on fleshpounds but then you'll have to avoid scrakes entirely only using it to shoot an unexploded dud to stimble it back. It can work with nukes but that's at max lvl. Lower lvls see the first statement in the paragraphs.

It's in a really wierd spot tbh:

Seeker six is better for singular targets, works really well with all L perk skills, tons of ammo, and nukes but lacks explosive radius. Also reload super fast all 6 rockets at once. It's okay on bosses. B/c of lock on (patty and hanz the sidestep dancing master), but falls short on other bosses (KFP amd minions amd the tanky armored abom.).

Rpg is best for larger zeds, bosses, and trash hoardes b/c of explosive radius, and big zed bonuses. Downsides being less ammo, more prone to error (miss 1 shot via stalker appearing outta nowhere and you lose about 1/20th of your ammo) and slower reload.

M32 is a mix of both. It can work with either side but doesn't have nearly enough damage, but has a medium ammo pool. Also it reloads incredibly slow one grenade at a time but sorta compensates with large explosive radius. It sadly has no special buffs on either scrakes or bosses, which makes it pretty useless by comparison and overpriced. Thing needs a little extra kick to help it compete with the other alterntaives (specially in the special stats department). Like hell idk, maybe specifically against fleshpounds and armored zeds/shields (so rioters, edars, abom, and boss shields can be impacted better). Then it'd be
Rpg=overall rounder with high damage but less room for error
Seeker six=highly accurate with large, fast reload mags but only 1 at a time
M32=Defense breaker and bane of fleshpounds but costs more and reload has to be timed

[HiTmAn]

if u go with m32 i would go all skills on left every little bit of extra dmg will help... for big zeds stun them with dynamite its exellent for that and aim head or neck to maximize u dmg

[gamba]

to put it bluntly, the m32 is not worth using as it is now, especially since
-lack of ammo (46 rounds) for a supposedly generalistic weapon
-lack of explosive damage (takes between the 6/7 shots to kill a singular fp without relying on duds on a LLLL loadout and 3 shots for a qp in the same loadout)
-excessive reload times even with the tac reload (tac relo is just a 20% anim speed increase basically)
-knockdown values on duds make sc takedowns harder and more reliant on body damage
-has the worst "recoil" out of the on-perk demo weapons

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by gamb:

to put it bluntly, the m32 is not worth using as it is now, especially since
-lack of ammo (46 rounds) for a supposedly generalistic weapon
-lack of explosive damage (takes between the 6/7 shots to kill a singular fp without relying on duds on a LLLL loadout and 3 shots for a qp in the same loadout)
-excessive reload times even with the tac reload (tac relo is just a 20% anim speed increase basically)
-knockdown values on duds make sc takedowns harder and more reliant on body damage
-has the worst "recoil" out of the on-perk demo weapons

that's why i put in my comment that the m32 should get a resistances....erm counter buff. Extra armor and shield damage, and fleshpounds. It would easily hard counter rioters, EDARs, abom, and fleshpounds qps or KFP. You'd be crippled on everything else (patty, scrakes, and bloats) but you wouldn't be 100% less powerful than the alternatives (seeker six dud buffs and the rpg bonuses against bigger zeds)

[🅱oviet 🅱adjur]

It's better for scrakes than it is on fp.

5 duds for sc and fp if LLLL(L/R)
5 duds for sc and 6 for fp if RLLL(L/R)

6 nades 1 dynamite for fp.
5 nades 1 c4 for fp.

However you will might knock em down.

You can carry a m16/m203 or c4 + .500/deagle + med pistol

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

after some testing
it ironically works better on survivalist since you can reload in zed itme and more ammo plus explosive radius
helps clear trash super fast and some stumble other zeds that don't die.

[Rushcaliber]

Originally posted by (TF2SP) Mischievious Ice Fairy:

after some testing
it ironically works better on survivalist since you can reload in zed itme and more ammo plus explosive radius
helps clear trash super fast and some stumble other zeds that don't die.

ye but then you have to play survivalist