SCARH or FN FAL

[GALANTIS]

Of course you have enough room for both, with enough to upgrade one

Just a simple comparison, both costing 1500 dosh and both being tier 4 weapons. Both have the same magazine size.
FN FAL hurts more than SCARH and has some penetration, BUT, has way more recoil (and by extension has way less precision), way less total ammo, weighs much more, and has a slightly longer reload time
Now the FN FAL has been nerfed a bit, rate of fire is reduced a bit and recoil is increased making it a bit harder to control on sustained full auto even with perks

Still which gun would you prefer if you had to choose between these two. Does the high damage outweigh the rest of cons for the FAL? granted, the damage is pretty great

[HiTmAn]

problem with fal is very high rate of fire witch need to be tuned down something like vkb cz burn trough ammo like nothing...i dont like fall at all i personaly think scar is way more consistant way better ammo economy.. pretty good reload without elite reload.good clean scope

[TUPAC AMARU]

Yes , the fact that it has a higher rof and base bullet damage outweigh the fact that the scar is superb in almost every aspect. It's a high risk-high reward weapon , kind of like the Famas in bf4.

[DrunkBunny94]

The FAL is the best AR for large zeds the SCAR is better for trash.

The FAL doesn't have the spare ammo pool or cheap ammo for that matter to be blowing it on clots when there are much better options available which makes the scar by comparison better for trash.

The trouble is the SCAR competes with other ARs for clearing trash and its small mag size and average ammo reserve doesn't really let it stand out.

The med AR 401 is the king of trash because it's got a decent RoF, massive ammo capacity like 33-50%, the largest mag fed magazine and while its damage might not be the best it's enough to not be bad. It could do will loosing a magazine from its total ammo capacity tbh.

[B Dawg]

The Med AR 401 (and 501 while were at it) could use being removed from crossperk as Commando is already versatile enough and it outclasses the SCAR, so that you don't have to nerf the weapon for the Field Medic perk. Commando doesn't sacrifice much power (if any) by buying the Medic Weapon, while Support and SWAT do (which is kinda unfair imo).

[Littlefoot]

FAL any time of the week. Even after the nerf, it's damage is still the highest of all the Commando's weapons. SCAR for the same price just can't compete, since all it offers is ammo and you can clear trash just fine with any gun cheaper than it, which compliments the FAL well.

[Amplifier]

From what I've heard the FAL is an absolute meme in the damage department and probably needs more nerfing.
Though now that it has a penetration value V.S. the SCAR it does definetly have a clear and definitive use when compared to it's older brother. I don't know if a penetration value is more useful than raw damage citation needed for the SCAR's "raw damage" versus the FAL but in tighter maps with more CQC and clumped up enemies I imagine that penetration value will hold a lot of weight.

[ReissyBoi]

Other people mention the FAL’s extra damage, but I’m sure a level 25 Mando with HPR can oneshot almost everything with a Scar anyway (2 shot Gorefiend/Bloat/Siren) So you’ll only be using the FAL to kill big Zeds which isn’t the Commando’s job

Might as well take the Scar since it has more ammo, and take a 401 for healing and extra trash cleaning

[GALANTIS]

Originally posted by ReissyBoi:

Other people mention the FAL’s extra damage, but I’m sure a level 25 Mando with HPR can oneshot everything below QP with a Scar anyway (correct me if I’m wrong, I prestiged my Commando) So you’ll only be using the FAL to kill big Zeds which isn’t the Commando’s job

Very good point,
It's not the commando's job to take on big zeds, (though when it comes down to it, everyone oughta pitch in). Just as long as you can kill trash which the commando does very well and extend zed time you're good

Up until now before the FAL, the SCARH was the best thing the commando had against trash and big zed alike (unless you count the m16 m203)
The SCARH is already a competent tier 5 weapon for mando and the FN FAL makes it even easier to take on bigger zeds which again would fall on the SS, GS or DEMO's responsibility.

They don't really seem to overshadow one or the other, is why i think it's more down to personal preferance rather than the meta demanding it

[GALANTIS]

Also if one does choose to go with the FAL, you do have enough room to carry the Med AR, but you would'nt have enough to upgrade either. Unless that's not a totally big issue

[Oc]

This*

Plus the fact that it has really good stumble power, pretty sure it was basically the same or a little more than the scar (for the med rifle) however that was probably a year or more that I checked.

Originally posted by DrunkBunny94:

The FAL is the best AR for large zeds the SCAR is better for trash.

The FAL doesn't have the spare ammo pool or cheap ammo for that matter to be blowing it on clots when there are much better options available which makes the scar by comparison better for trash.

The trouble is the SCAR competes with other ARs for clearing trash and its small mag size and average ammo reserve doesn't really let it stand out.

The med AR 401 is the king of trash because it's got a decent RoF, massive ammo capacity like 33-50%, the largest mag fed magazine and while its damage might not be the best it's enough to not be bad. It could do will loosing a magazine from its total ammo capacity tbh.

[DrunkBunny94]

Originally posted by GALANTIS:

Also if one does choose to go with the FAL, you do have enough room to carry the Med AR, but you would'nt have enough to upgrade either. Unless that's not a totally big issue

It's not an issue at all.

The med AR alone gives you the most ammo you can have with the FAL which means you use the 401 for all the trash and save the FAL exclusively for larges.

I'll frequently end games as mando now with the most damage and the most trash kills and now also the most large zed kills it's insane.

[Koh]

Fnfal cause it can kill all larges pretty easily and med ar 401 is Mando’s best trash killing weapon. Scar is pretty bad for its tier and even if the fal didn’t exist u would be better off with an ak in most situations. Fnfal makes commando just as good as a m14 ss or supp with large zed takedowns.

[Foster Doshwalker]

The addition of the FAL made almost every commando player finally ignore his actual role and go hunt the big zeds.
This weapon can't be balanced for both perks.Either remove it from commando or split it into two different guns.

[Eze]

FAL needs a backup weapon with it's menial ammo pool. It's like the Commando Doomstick, but good. I once did so good that I had both weapon in inventory, SCAR was a pleasure as a CQC rifle, and FAL was a great gianslayer, better than SCAR in that regard no doubt.

I should note that it is pretty dangerous to only have the FAL and a pistol if you're the only trasher in the team.

BTW i find commando a flexible class to take on bigger zeds provided you have the right weapons. It's not commando job? Right. But when we're fewer than 4... you reconsider:

-getting a stoner if you're the only trasher
-getting the 401 if there's no medic
-getting the M16M203 and filling your grenades if there's no demo and sharp sucks and other disruptive mishaps
-getting the SCAR or FAL if you want to kill the sk fast.

[GALANTIS]

Originally posted by Eze:

FAL needs a backup weapon with it's menial ammo pool. It's like the Commando Doomstick, but good. I once did so good that I had both weapon in inventory, SCAR was a pleasure as a CQC rifle, and FAL was a great gianslayer, better than SCAR in that regard no doubt.

I should note that it is pretty dangerous to only have the FAL and a pistol if you're the only trasher in the team.

BTW i find commando a flexible class to take on bigger zeds provided you have the right weapons. It's not commando job? Right. But when we're fewer than 4... you reconsider:

-getting a stoner if you're the only trasher
-getting the 401 if there's no medic
-getting the M16M203 and filling your grenades if there's no demo and sharp sucks and other disruptive mishaps
-getting the SCAR or FAL if you want to kill the sk fast.

Would you look at that, a real jack-of-all-trades
Goes to show how terrible survivalist is, getting outclassed like that