Commando or SWAT?

[Bonvex]

Who is better for team/solo?
and are they filling same role in team?

[LuckyDude]

My way:
SWAT for free starting armor in first spawn.
Commando for dealing with zeds.

[Lyon-CZ]

Commando for his ZED time extending and visibility of stalkers. But SWAT is IMHO slightly better in delaing with big ZEDs, so i would prefer him for solo play.

[CursedPanther]

Commando = better team support
SWAT = another perk with big zeds stunning skill and better for solo

Having the 2 paired up in a game is golden. I can literally dump dozens of Kriss SMG rounds into an FP's head during chained zed time and completely decap it before it knows what hit it.

[Drakulas]

Personally I love playing commando and can't stand swat. Swat weapons all feel so weak needing 3-4 bullets to do what a commando can with 1 bullet.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by Drakulas:

Personally I love playing commando and can't stand swat. Swat weapons all feel so weak needing 3-4 bullets to do what a commando can with 1 bullet.

i feel ya man

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

solo either is fine, swat does a little better solo due to mag sizes, but commando shines in multiplayer.

commando=zed time extensions which are pretty useful on lvl 25 perks.
swat=trash killer with stunning capabilities which is more important on solo. that and tank armor too since no meds, slow, and only heal 50 health at a time.

Still, swat is practically outclassed in ever way that matters by commando, same scenario with GS vs sharp where gs is good solo, sharp excels in a team setting by a milestone.

Plus swat costs a ton to maintain and use right if you join late in a match, while commando can still hold grounds even if you join at the last possible wave.

Swat was pretty decent before they nerfed the mac-10 and med smg. Now theres a huge crepe between mp7 and the p90 or ump from T1 to T3 since skipping T2's entirely is the best choice

[CursedPanther]

Originally posted by Drakulas:

Personally I love playing commando and can't stand swat. Swat weapons all feel so weak needing 3-4 bullets to do what a commando can with 1 bullet.

Headshot is the key. Other than the SCARH, Commando won't be one-shot anything much.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

Originally posted by Drakulas:

Personally I love playing commando and can't stand swat. Swat weapons all feel so weak needing 3-4 bullets to do what a commando can with 1 bullet.

Headshot is the key. Other than the SCARH, Commando won't be one-shot anything much.

neither will swat tbh which is why it's refered to as the spray and pray perk

[Littlefoot]

They work in a similiar way, but the difference is that SWAT is meant for crowd control and stunning priority targets, whereas Commando brings more team-wide utility such as zedtime extensions and spotting stalkers.

Both perks have a place in any match.

[B Dawg]

Commando. I don't play SWAT unless there is a Support in the game (apart from Wave 1) to give me free ammo (and potentially Armor).

[CursedPanther]

Originally posted by (TF2SP) God of Beer and Games:

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

Headshot is the key. Other than the SCARH, Commando won't be one-shot anything much.

neither will swat tbh which is why it's refered to as the spray and pray perk

Thus 'headshot is the key'.

[DrunkBunny94]

Commando offers more utility with the stalker call out and zed time extensions.

SWAT offers more raw killing power and a little utility with his slows and nade stun.

If you can't decide between commando or SWAT rule of thumb is:

Does your team have a commando? If the answer is no pick commando if the answer is yes then pick SWAT.
That's the simplest breakdown for team play.

For solo either works well, swat prolly has a slight edge but mando is still very good.

[B Dawg]

Originally posted by DrunkBunny94:

SWAT offers more raw killing power

Not really. Both the SCAR and AK12 have higher DPS than the Kriss. Commando has more raw killing power in general.

[DrunkBunny94]

Originally posted by B Dawg:

Originally posted by DrunkBunny94:

SWAT offers more raw killing power

Not really. Both the SCAR and AK12 have higher DPS than the Kriss. Commando has more raw killing power in general.

When it comes to killing trash the swat is better you would need a bot in order to demonstrate this as no human could use it full potential but it's still there. As you could potentially kill 20 clots/crawlers/stalkers/gorefasts per second it the drops to be similar/worse than commando for other zeds like it would be 5 gorefiends per second with the kriss which is very close to the 5.something of the SCAR.
AK is straight crazy ATM I'm not going to argue against that lul if they don't nerf it the new mando guns are going to feel overshadowed...

When zed time hits the SWAT has way more killing power here as well because the commando is limited to 6~ kills for extending the zed time. In this time the swat could - like I say if controlled by a bot kill 100-200 trash zeds with just a 10 second zed time extension, it both sounds like and looks like calling in an AC130 to mow everything down. This is where the swat shines. This is also why you don't out a swat in a lane with commando because the swat will murder everything as soon as zed time hits.

This is why you ask if there's a commando already if there isn't mando out DPSs SWAT if there is a commando on the team then swat out DPSs commando.

[HiTmAn]

i like swat but i personaly think for team play mando helps more team