Killing Floor 2

Killing Floor 2

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Genpac Jun 6, 2018 @ 12:11pm
Winchester V SPX Centerfire
Due to the new upgrade system and patches notes:

SPX 464 Centerfire
Bullet damage reduced from 180 to 165
Ammo cost raised from 50 per mag to 55 per mag

Winchester 1894
Base Weight reduced from 5 to 4

I now usually use the Winchester more since upgrading it ONLY one time is cheaper for both replacing a weapon and ammo costs. With the Winchester upgraded to T2 it can due “most” of the SPX’s jobs well. The SPX does more DMG of course, but the T2 Winchester reaches a certain threshold that it can one cap more zeds.

(This does not included traits that can increase damage execpt Stability and being a lv.18 Sharp at this current post.)
Originally posted by Blue:
Winchester 200 dosh 80 damage. 1st upgrade, 700 dosh total, 128 damage. 2nd upgrade, 1300 dosh total, 152 damage. 3rd upgrade, 2000 dosh, 184 damage. 4th upgrade, 3500 dosh, 200 damage.

SPX 650 dosh, 165 damage. 1st upgrade, 1250 dosh total, 190 damage. 2nd upgrade, 1950 dosh, 214.5 damage. 3rd upgrade, 3450 dosh, 239.25 damage.

Damagewise, the SPX will be a bit better. If you plan on upgrading, the SPX will also be cheaper. Even after spending 1300 dosh on the Winchester, it'll still be weaker than the unupgraded SPX.

The m14 has the same base damage as the winchester (80), gets 15% each upgrade. Railgun has 560 damage. Crossbow has 350 damage (560 at max upgrade), making it pretty good. Max upgraded crossbow is probably one of the best scrake killing weapons now and will drop FP pretty quick.
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Underdog Jun 6, 2018 @ 12:14pm 
I run both on Gunslinger pretty often and have a lot of fun. I'm always going to love the SPX more because of its scope. Also when you upgrade the SPX to tier 4 or even tier 5 it's just "quality perfection"
Rascal (Banned) Jun 6, 2018 @ 1:13pm 
I dislike both of the guns so I rarely ever use them, but I buy the SPX for the damage convenience. Good for dealing with Rioters, Bloats, Sirens, or gores when I need it. It's also fairly helpful for big zed stunning and easily dispatching Scrakes. I would otherwise buy the M14 for it's ammo and move onto the M99 AMR+Dual 9mm.

I just don't like the way the Winchester or SPX feel when I use them. Mainly the cocking when ADS.
Last edited by Rascal; Jun 6, 2018 @ 1:14pm
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Blue Jun 6, 2018 @ 1:57pm 
Winchester 200 dosh 80 damage. 1st upgrade, 700 dosh total, 128 damage. 2nd upgrade, 1300 dosh total, 152 damage. 3rd upgrade, 2000 dosh, 184 damage. 4th upgrade, 3500 dosh, 200 damage.

SPX 650 dosh, 165 damage. 1st upgrade, 1250 dosh total, 190 damage. 2nd upgrade, 1950 dosh, 214.5 damage. 3rd upgrade, 3450 dosh, 239.25 damage.

Damagewise, the SPX will be a bit better. If you plan on upgrading, the SPX will also be cheaper. Even after spending 1300 dosh on the Winchester, it'll still be weaker than the unupgraded SPX.

The m14 has the same base damage as the winchester (80), gets 15% each upgrade. Railgun has 560 damage. Crossbow has 350 damage (560 at max upgrade), making it pretty good. Max upgraded crossbow is probably one of the best scrake killing weapons now and will drop FP pretty quick.
Originally posted by Blue:
Winchester 200 dosh 80 damage. 1st upgrade, 700 dosh total, 128 damage. 2nd upgrade, 1300 dosh total, 152 damage. 3rd upgrade, 2000 dosh, 184 damage. 4th upgrade, 3500 dosh, 200 damage.

SPX 650 dosh, 165 damage. 1st upgrade, 1250 dosh total, 190 damage. 2nd upgrade, 1950 dosh, 214.5 damage. 3rd upgrade, 3450 dosh, 239.25 damage.

Damagewise, the SPX will be a bit better. If you plan on upgrading, the SPX will also be cheaper. Even after spending 1300 dosh on the Winchester, it'll still be weaker than the unupgraded SPX.

The m14 has the same base damage as the winchester (80), gets 15% each upgrade. Railgun has 560 damage. Crossbow has 350 damage (560 at max upgrade), making it pretty good. Max upgraded crossbow is probably one of the best scrake killing weapons now and will drop FP pretty quick.
i can get behind that
i also noticed other weapons become more powerful such as a seeker six vs an rpg, you can maintain a little more dps due to having 6 rockets. Even though the rpg dishes out alot unless you run fast reload. i've dropped scs in 5 rockets vs 1 rpg rocket for some reason

also the m16 is perfect on commando. best weapon to upgrade if you wanna kill fps and other zeds too
Last edited by Fumo Bnnuy n Frends; Jun 6, 2018 @ 2:08pm
xCAS9 🧬 Feb 24, 2019 @ 4:45am 
Originally posted by ᴾᵃⁿᵈᵃ🐼ᴾᵘˢˢʸ:
I dislike both of the guns so I rarely ever use them, but I buy the SPX for the damage convenience. Good for dealing with Rioters, Bloats, Sirens, or gores when I need it. It's also fairly helpful for big zed stunning and easily dispatching Scrakes. I would otherwise buy the M14 for it's ammo and move onto the M99 AMR+Dual 9mm.

I just don't like the way the Winchester or SPX feel when I use them. Mainly the cocking when ADS.

Haha you haven't experience the Lever action rifle in KF1, it is way worse.
xCAS9 🧬 Feb 24, 2019 @ 4:52am 
Originally posted by Genpac:

I now usually use the Winchester more since upgrading it ONLY one time is cheaper for both replacing a weapon and ammo costs. With the Winchester upgraded to T2 it can due “most” of the SPX’s jobs well. The SPX does more DMG of course, but the T2 Winchester reaches a certain threshold that it can one cap more zeds.

Because of the upgrade system I can now do the classic LAR and EBR combo I used to do as SS in KF1.

During the KF1 days, to successfully kill an SC in HOE, it is the job of the SS to stun the SC using LAR then spam it with shots.

I can now pretty much do it again with Winchester (even though you can do that with SPX) with the ballistic shock and rack em up, nothing beats the classic.
Nice necroing, besides lar in kf1 is really good, you're just bad
Genpac Feb 24, 2019 @ 8:26am 
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