How is the UMP compared to the P90?

[I Am Klaus]

Is it worth using instead of the P90? Kriss/UMP/HM201/HM101, maybe?

Any decent Survivalist loadouts for the UMP?

[Morton Koopa Jr.]

I believe the critical improvement is that ump can one shot gorefasts whereas pop cannot. Iirc that's the consensus.

This wouldn't apply to survivalist I assume.

[HiTmAn]

dmg wise ump is way stronger more ammo effective

[rogan]

UMP is more ammo eficient, but it doesn't matter, because swat isn't supposed to be.

Imo it's the weakest option in swat's arsenal save for the mp7 because it doesn't have the same sustained crowd control that swat is for. If you want to prioritise husks, sirens, gorefasts and bloats more, commando is better.

[Jam]

I'd put it equal to the p90 overall. However, the mp5 can do more-or-less the same job as the p90 (albiet marginally worse in every way) and weighs only 4, meaning you can carry it, the kriss and the ump in the same loadout. Having both the mp5 and p90 at the same time is a bit pointless as they're both sort of the same gun, so the UMP fills more of a niche that the p90 doesn't fill.
I'd pick the UMP if you already have a mp5 and the p90 if you don't

[I Am Klaus]

Originally posted by Jam:

I'd put it equal to the p90 overall. However, the mp5 can do more-or-less the same job as the p90 (albiet marginally worse in every way) and weighs only 4, meaning you can carry it, the kriss and the ump in the same loadout. Having both the mp5 and p90 at the same time is a bit pointless as they're both sort of the same gun, so the UMP fills more of a niche that the p90 doesn't fill.
I'd pick the UMP if you already have a mp5 and the p90 if you don't

I only take the MP5 in solo play. In team play I take the HM201 and the HM101.

[Jam]

Originally posted by Dilly☢Dillem:

Originally posted by Jam:

I'd put it equal to the p90 overall. However, the mp5 can do more-or-less the same job as the p90 (albiet marginally worse in every way) and weighs only 4, meaning you can carry it, the kriss and the ump in the same loadout. Having both the mp5 and p90 at the same time is a bit pointless as they're both sort of the same gun, so the UMP fills more of a niche that the p90 doesn't fill.
I'd pick the UMP if you already have a mp5 and the p90 if you don't

I only take the MP5 in solo play. In team play I take the HM201 and the HM101.

In that case I guess you'd want to take either. I don't use the 201 very often but I can't imagine using it for the brunt of the work.

[screeno42]

I generally use the UMP as a replacement for the kriss; slightly lower mag size and firerate for slightly higher accuracy and damage per shot and an extra block of weight for something else.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

it's stronger and more effective at killing trash zeds and medium zeds plus less recoil and slower firing speed mean more stability and less recoil
the kriss and ump are now the new meta for swat once you get enough to buy the p90
the only advantage the p90 has against the ump is the triple and single fire shot gun settings
the p90 in single shot is more controllable than triple shot and can instantly go back to rapid fire to ward off zeds when needed
the ump cannot so you either tap fire or risk rapid fire.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

Originally posted by screeno42:

I generally use the UMP as a replacement for the kriss; slightly lower mag size and firerate for slightly higher accuracy and damage per shot and an extra block of weight for something else.

i run both but only on the L perk skills
on R i got enough ammo to single shot enemies with the kriss and pistols

[Ghoul Hunter]

The dps of the UMP is significantly higher than the P90. Reload is faster too. The ammo count is high enough on both to not matter. UMP is better in all the important ways.

[CursedPanther]

I find the bullet spread on the UMP to be better than the P90 when hip firing.

[Fumo Bnnuy n Frends]

also ump goes great with the magnums to quickly kill any trash and medium zeds and allow the full floor for big zed killers to easily kill any big zeds. You go pure L and you should be able to clear the entire dare i say it KILLING FLOOR with them.

[FoxtronCypher]

Ump has more recoil

[Cathulhu]

As much as i love the P90, still do, the UMP just feels better in my hands. May be down to playstyle which one you like more, but i prefer the UMP.

[Jam]

Originally posted by Lo Wang:

The dps of the UMP is significantly higher than the P90. Reload is faster too. The ammo count is high enough on both to not matter. UMP is better in all the important ways.

The dps is only like 5% higher. 450 on the UMP compared to 428.5 on the p90