Lore question

[Chinggis Khaan]

Are the zeds clones?
Can the zeds turn more people into zeds, using somekind of virus or something?
Is there anykind of webseries about the lore?

[[MM] Cpt_Mustard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HgcL_9u84&t=554s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg8M_EThI-U

[Necromancer]

http://kf-wiki.com/wiki/Patriarch#Background
Zeds are failed experimental clones created by Horzine Biotech. No they cant turn more people into zeds, only the Patriarch (and Hans Volter ?) can create more Zeds.

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Way way way back in the original UT 04 mod with the single player campaign, some of the zeds were wearing DPM battle fatigues implying that the British Armed response teams sent in to contain the outbreak were over run, killed and became apart of the undead ranks. Some of the zeds also seemed to be wearing civilian clothes as well which would imply that at least some of the zeds were turned. But the zeds were still clones.

In the full game that came in 2009 all the zeds are clones and they meerly kill everyone.

I have no proof on this matter but i belive this was done because making each zed 'unique' within a hoard would have cost too much resources on an engine and the rather small dev team, so in a sense it was corner cutting.

Anyway all the Zeds in KF1 and 2 are from Horzine cloning facilities, Kevin Clamley, (the patriarch and CEO of Horzine) kinda set of a chain of events whiched killed all the horzine staff while leaving the cloning chambers on thus and endless factory line of zeds are being spewed out all over the UK, and as KF2 would have it across the world. Hence their seemingly infinate number.

There is a Lore to KF, but most of it is left overs from the mod that is not really used, For example LT Masterson was / is actually a Horzine Clone.

[[MM] Cpt_Mustard]

Originally posted by |H|H| Fr3ddi3:

Way way way back in the original UT 04 mod with the single player campaign, some of the zeds were wearing DPM battle fatigues implying that the British Armed response teams sent in to contain the outbreak were over run, killed and became apart of the undead ranks. Some of the zeds also seemed to be wearing civilian clothes as well which would imply that at least some of the zeds were turned.

In the full game that came in 2009 all the zeds are clones and they meerly kill everyone.

I have no proof on this matter but i belive this was done because making each zed 'unique' within a hoard would have cost too much resources on an engine and the rather small dev team, so in a sense it was corner cutting.

Anyway all the Zeds in KF1 and 2 are from Horzine cloning facilities, Kevin Clamley, (the patriarch and CEO of Horzine) kinda set of a chain of events whiched killed all the horzine staff while leaving the cloning chambers on thus and endless factory line of zeds are being spewed out all over the UK, and as KF2 would have it across the world. Hence their seemingly infinate number.

There is a Lore to KF, but most of it is left overs from the mod that is not really used, For example LT Masterson was / is actually a Horzine Clone.

Lt. David Masterson*

Current one is an original and the player from UT2004 kf mod is Corporal Lewis

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Originally posted by King Krimson:

Lt. David Masterson*

Current one is an original and the player from UT2004 kf mod is Corporal Lewis

The Boss you kill at the end is Masterson, not the player. Mastersons 09 Charecter Bio cryptically alludes to his mod incarnation, little more than a shoutout than an actual plot point thesedays. If you wanna read into it more than that i suppose you can argue that there are multiple Masterson clones.

[[MM] Cpt_Mustard]

Originally posted by |H|H| Fr3ddi3:

Originally posted by King Krimson:

Lt. David Masterson*

Current one is an original and the player from UT2004 kf mod is Corporal Lewis

The Boss you kill at the end is Masterson, not the player. Mastersosns 09 Charecter Bio cryptically alludes to his mod incarnation, little more than a shoutout than an actual plot point thesedays.

I meant that as a player, you are Corporal Lewis

Boss at the end is Lt. DAVID Masterson, masterson we currently have is named BILL Masterson

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Originally posted by King Krimson:

Originally posted by |H|H| Fr3ddi3:

The Boss you kill at the end is Masterson, not the player. Mastersosns 09 Charecter Bio cryptically alludes to his mod incarnation, little more than a shoutout than an actual plot point thesedays.

I meant that as a player, you are Corporal Lewis

Boss at the end is Lt. DAVID Masterson, masterson we currently have is named BILL Masterson

Ah ok im with you now.

KF mod to KF2 it would seem it is a different Masterson, if you assume his name is real.

But KF1 did not have that distinction, he's just LT Masterson, with this in his Bio.

"It's unclear how this man rose through the ranks so quickly; his prior military service seems virtually non-existant".

Hence the allusion to him being a hozine clone, probably not the same one mind you (as he is 'killed' at the end of the mod), but a clone none the less. Masterson was suppose to be the perfected Clone and thus it makes sense that Hozine would make more of him. But as I said, the mod story is largely disconnected so weitherr or not anyone wants to take it as cannon now is up to them, could just be a hommage to the original mod and current Masterson is indeed just a normal guy, doesnt really matter eitehr way.

[NNNN]

i alway thought the zeds were some kind of time adnormaly at least the bigger zeds because they all looks the same and have the same type of addon to them. i mean cloning is one thing the gears put on them is an other .

i remeber sombody voice chating during on of the game i had said "who is the or who are the nameless black smiths forging all these blades and cleavers and stuff just so these get to be attach on some brainless clones who cant even use it properly.

[BROLY 32]

My theory is that all the characters you play as in KF2 are clones of fighters that managed to survive a bit longer than normal people. They're sent on the field to do some testing with the zeds, for horzine.
We're not here to clean up the mess, it's a lie. The mess is already way out of control in Europe, horzine won. They're just having fun now, doing some live action field-testing and gathering more data. Probably to make zeds evolve even further and conquer the whole world next.

[[MM] Cpt_Mustard]

Originally posted by BROLY 32:

My theory is that all the characters you play as in KF2 are clones sent on the field to do some testing with the zeds for horzine.
We're not here to clean up the mess, it's a lie. The mess is already way out of control, horzine won. They're just having fun now.

Your theory is quite wrong tho, since in Killing Floor Incursion, Mr. Foster actually fights against Horzine and comics like Zed Landing, The Decent and Tragic Kingdom comics don't support your theory

and biggest proof is Strasser, he was frozen by Hans Volter, but Hans isn't responsible for the outbreak and is not member of Horzine, he is resposible for enchancing zeds, like Elite variations

[BROLY 32]

Originally posted by King Krimson:

Your theory is quite wrong tho, since in Killing Floor Incursion, Mr. Foster actually fights against Horzine and comics like Zed Landing, The Decent and Tragic Kingdom comics don't support your theory

I edited a bit, didn't write it in one go. You can think I'm wrong, but it feels right to me. That's my lore.

[BROLY 32]

Originally posted by King Krimson:

and biggest proof is Strasser, he was frozen by Hans Volter, but Hans isn't responsible for the outbreak, he is resposible for enchancing zeds, like Elite variations

Yeah, definitely makes my point even stronger.
He kept some elite soldier, cloned him and used him to make some further testing on zeds to gather data and make them stronger.
The original survivors might still me alive and fighting somewhere.

[Samuli_Hemuli]

The zeds themselves can't turn other people into zeds, but if you were to go to Biotics Lab level, look into the warning signs and read them. It says that the liquid in the tanks aren't water, but a highly mutative agent meant to nourish and preserve the zeds. So if you were to go into the vats, they would mutate you into something.

[[MM] Cpt_Mustard]

Originally posted by BROLY 32:

Originally posted by King Krimson:

and biggest proof is Strasser, he was frozen by Hans Volter, but Hans isn't responsible for the outbreak, he is resposible for enchancing zeds, like Elite variations

Yeah, definitely makes my point even stronger.
He kept some elite soldier, cloned him and used him to make some further testing on zeds to gather data and make them stronger.
The original survivors might still me alive and fighting somewhere.

But he is not part of horzine and again, The Decent comic just proves you wrong, since Scully and Strasser talk about how Hans froze him in a lab and woke up after 70 years
Same goes for his bio

Hans wanted to do tests on him, but failed when he escaped

[BROLY 32]

Originally posted by King Krimson:

But he is not part of horzine and again, The Decent comic just proves you wrong, since Scully and Strasser talk about how Hans froze him in a lab and woke up after 70 years
Same goes for his bio

Hans wanted to do tests on him, but failed when he escaped

Could easily be an excuse created by Horzine to make the clone believe he's not a clone.
Also you keep talking about the comics, but the more I look at them, the more they make me think my theory is right.
You're free to believe in what you want. Write us down your lore, it would be more interesting to hear your own interpretation.