Why you shouldn't use perk training maps to level the perks you want to play.

[I Am Klaus]

All too often I see level 25's in Suicidal and HoE that have absolutely no clue what they're doing, from taking the full minute at a trader, to not knowing what their designated role in a group is or how to adapt to group tactics, to not knowing how to react when swarmed, the position is overwhelmed, or when big zeds are on the scene, and it's painfully obvious that these players haven't played their class enough to have made it to level 25 on their own, otherwise they would know what they're doing.

Perk training maps are quickly becoming an epidemic, where Suicidal and HoE games are predominantly inhabited by players who swindled their way to the high levels without really earning it, and denying themselves the experience and knowledge that comes with leveling that class legitimately.

So here are some reasons why you shouldn't use a perk training map to cheat your way to 25.

Q. Well I don't really have time to level perks normally, so I'll just do it quickly so I can actually play the game.
A. You don't have to be a high level to play on Normal or Hard mode; those modes are balanced around lower level perks. Suicidal and Hell on Earth are not meant to be jumped to after just a few hours play time; you have to develop the skills and work your way up to those difficulties, because they play completely different from the lower skill settings.

Also, if you don't have the time to learn and level a single perk, then you probably don't have enough time to invest in video games as it is, and you should either find another game that doesn't involve a time investment, or reassess playing games at all.


Q. But being level 25 means I can contribute just as much as anybody else.
A. I can only laugh at this one. That's how ridiculous this statement is.

Having maximized perk stats is not what's going to keep a game alive in the later waves. Yeah it will tip the scales more in your favor, but the dominating factor that decides whether teams survive or wipe is teamwork, player skill and player knowledge. Congratulations, you do 25% more damage with SMGs on your shiny new 25 SWAT. But what happens when three Fleshpounds show up in Wave 7 and you don't know how to deal with it? Even if you were perk level 100 it wouldn't save you, if you don't know how to deal with the various situations you're going to find yourself in.

Leveling a perk legitimately means that you gradually learn how to play the class as you go, what weapons work best on each zed, what loadouts are optimized and suit your style of play, where the most favorable positions on the map are. Not to mention your reflexes and reaction times for class-based tactics, such as swift headshots and flank awareness. And once you reach 20-25 you'll have a much better understanding of how the class plays, and this will not only benefit you, but the rest of your team as well. Nobody wants a deadweight.

Q. But why can't I per train to 25 and THEN learn the class in Normal or Hard?
A. Nobody is stopping you from doing this, and in fact this is fine if you're really intent on learning the class you just power-leveled. But don't try to do this in Suicidal or Hell on Earth if you have no idea what you're doing. You'll just die and end up getting your entire team killed, and then they'll all hate your guts. Again, you don't just earn the right to play Suicidal or HoE by conning your way to 25, you have to build yourself up to that level. If you're not ready for it, everyone suffers for it.

Q. But I'm an achievement ♥♥♥♥♥ and want them all now.
A. They're not really achievements if you can just con your way to glory. Isn't it more rewarding to earn those achievements the intended way?

Q. ♥♥♥♥ you I'll play how I want to play.
A. Be my guest, and when I see that you're a 25 that doesn't have a clue how to play your class, I'll be all too happy to call a votekick and boot your ♥♥♥ from the game, and replace you with someone more competent.

If you're going to cheat your way to 25, you're still obligated to learn your class before you move up in difficulty. Player skill and player knowledge accounts for far more of a players contribution than their perk level. A level 0 can contribute more than a level 25 if they know what they're doing, if they're aware of team tactics, map understanding, how to react when being overwhelmed by trash and big zeds, etc.

Being 25 doesn't make you good at this game; playing for extended periods of time and learning the game does.

[renamon~]

don't play with people play alone like i do simple

[Squishy boi thighs]

Originally posted by Sophia~:

don't play with people play alone like i do simple

don't play alone don't play at all like i do simple

[cHi]

Don't play custom server(e.g.36~50ppl or RPG mode)until you have enough knowledge to handle yourself,because those make so many player being stupid,they only know one thing find the glitch place and hide inside and feel i'm the best.

[HiTmAn]

ppl just need to relax and play whatever they wish.... ppl come on internet to run from problems.. rest from everything...and really dosent matter what they play

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Originally posted by HiTmAn:

ppl just need to relax and play whatever they wish.... ppl come on internet to run from problems.. rest from everything...and really dosent matter what they play

While I 100% agree, you have to be aware that you are playing a Co-Op game with other people, in higher difficulties players absolutely have expecatiations of you to at least be somewhat reliable at your job, because they depend on you for their own survival. If you're not any good then you're directly impacting other people enjoyment of the game by getting them killed and losing them games.

If you want to fast track into HoE and your not just trolling, then be considerate and do it with your legit rank and let the people in the server decide if they want to take a chance on you.

[renamon~]

why take games so seriously?

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Most people enjoy winning and derive fun from doing the best they can, that's not exactly a new concept but it's not mutually exclusive with no mucking about either. You don't care to play with that mindset? then thats absolutely fine and not something Im alien to at all, but don't go into gamemodes where people don't want that.

[Rascal]

I stopped playing online back in early 2016 because of the perktraining maps. I'd only play with friends and that would be rare.

At least you can easily spot them in Sui/HoE games though. Typically choosing Firebug and shooting at big ZEDs without any thought.

Perk training maps are a cancer to this game.

A few days ago on a Sui game, this 25 Firebug is doing his normal Firebug thing and being the most obnoxious person ever. I notice they're acting a bit like a trainer. I check their profile and lo and behold, 32 hours total play time with all level 25 perks.

[Leenker]

I used to use SuperPerkTraining to grind all my perk quickly because i don't have much time for that.. Plus, i played non-steam before i purchase this game so it's fine for me now. LOL

[Capt. Destro]

IMO super perk training is only useful if you are 1-2 levels away from a trait and you can't wait/don't want to wait to have it.

Using it to grind all the way to level 25 is sorta stupid and can cause a lot of bad habits on higher difficulties.

[Over]

The only problem I have with a lvl 25 on normal or hard is that they take all the xp from people who want to level up legitimetly but at that point I guess the party could just use the vote kick feature.

[Rascal]

Originally posted by Over:

The only problem I have with a lvl 25 on normal or hard is that they take all the xp from people who want to level up legitimetly but at that point I guess the party could just use the vote kick feature.

You could ask them to go medic and heal instead.

[Vertical Loop]

Level up to level 17, boost to 25, problem solved.

[Ashe]

The grind toward the later levels is a pain in the ass, that's more the problem. At some stage in the levelling process you stop learning things and are just grinding. Might as well do it efficiently IMO.

Tell me all you want that I won't be contributing as much with my lack of knowledge but I'll have more knowledge on when to use and switch out my perks by the end of the typical period that one would take to get from 1-25. When you're levelling up you take in new skills on the go and need to further adapt as your passives increase. Meanwhile with a perk trained perk you get more time to live in the 25 area and get used to what's best with every perk while the non boosted person may not even have their third perk yet.

[Rascal]

Originally posted by Schwoops\Schweppes:

The grind toward the later levels is a pain in the ass. Tell me all you want that I won't be contributing as much with my lack of knowledge but I'll have more knowledge on when to use and switch out my perks by the end of the typical period that one would take to get from 1-25. When you're levelling up you take in new skills on the go and need to further adapt as your passives increase. Meanwhile with a perk trained perk you get more time to live in the 25 area and get used to what's best with every perk while the non boosted person may not even have their third perk yet.

You obviously haven't played KF1 if you're saying leveling up is a pain in the ass in KF2