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Ignoring Juggernaut?
Why is the community ignoring Juggernaut mods? What was the rumors back in the day which created a permanent memories today?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih5diWByVLs
Last edited by SecretAgentKiiN 特务健; Aug 24, 2023 @ 7:10am
Originally posted by olo8:
Juggernaut had some good ideas but poor execution. The new skins and models are interesting, Borg-like troopers, some exotic alien animals, strange mutant apes, but they mostly lack proper animation and new sounds. Levels are interesting, but many areas feel rushed, in some cases even repeatedly copy-pasted.
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Lord_Kane Aug 24, 2023 @ 6:44am 
its often regarded as a low quality expansion iirc.
I do know that weapon & sound replacement is is bad, but we can be reset back default, right?

Some boring enemies placement can be bad, but it can be done quick in coop play, right?

What else is bad? I mean low quality...
Lord_Kane Aug 24, 2023 @ 7:20am 
Originally posted by SecretAgentKiiN 特务健:
I do know that weapon & sound replacement is is bad, but we can be reset back default, right?

Some boring enemies placement can be bad, but it can be done quick in coop play, right?

What else is bad? I mean low quality...
I wouldnt know sadly, I never played Juggernaut directly but from video some of the level design seems to be not very good, im more neutral on it but I can see why people would ignore it.
T02my Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:19pm 
Actually, I loved the level design and layout. Foreign feel. Somewhat different from other FPS games in that era.
Salander Aug 24, 2023 @ 12:31pm 
It looks really, really janky but in a good kind of way. Reminds me of Daikatana and the voiceovers paired with the cinematics are quite endearing, it's interesting.

Could be cool to have it in the remaster if they add more content.
Lord_Kane Aug 24, 2023 @ 1:38pm 
hmmm I should grab a copy off of ebay
Salander Aug 24, 2023 @ 1:44pm 
Originally posted by Lord_Kane:
hmmm I should grab a copy off of ebay
It's in "My Abandoware" though.
Lord_Kane Aug 24, 2023 @ 1:49pm 
Originally posted by Salander:
Originally posted by Lord_Kane:
hmmm I should grab a copy off of ebay
It's in "My Abandoware" though.
well I will check there then ty.
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
olo8 Aug 24, 2023 @ 2:48pm 
Juggernaut had some good ideas but poor execution. The new skins and models are interesting, Borg-like troopers, some exotic alien animals, strange mutant apes, but they mostly lack proper animation and new sounds. Levels are interesting, but many areas feel rushed, in some cases even repeatedly copy-pasted.
Last edited by olo8; Aug 24, 2023 @ 2:48pm
Thanks for many reply, I think I get the answer :steamhappy:
Originally posted by Lord_Kane:
Originally posted by Salander:
It's in "My Abandoware" though.
well I will check there then ty.
The words "My Abandoware" is very personal & subjective, I would label it "Dusty Completed game" after finish playing them in so many years.

For new player today in 2023, might be disappointed, because newcomer will compare it with the past experience with ton of games in those years.
Lord_Kane Aug 25, 2023 @ 7:16pm 
Originally posted by SecretAgentKiiN 特务健:
Originally posted by Lord_Kane:
well I will check there then ty.
The words "My Abandoware" is very personal & subjective, I would label it "Dusty Completed game" after finish playing them in so many years.

For new player today in 2023, might be disappointed, because newcomer will compare it with the past experience with ton of games in those years.

meh worth a try at the least.
Salander Aug 25, 2023 @ 7:32pm 
Originally posted by SecretAgentKiiN 特务健:
Originally posted by Lord_Kane:
well I will check there then ty.
The words "My Abandoware" is very personal & subjective, I would label it "Dusty Completed game" after finish playing them in so many years.

For new player today in 2023, might be disappointed, because newcomer will compare it with the past experience with ton of games in those years.
Oh, but "abandoware" only refers to a piece of software that has been "abandoned" by their IP owners and is not being selled directly in any (physical or virtual) market. My Abandoware, however, is the name of a site known for hosting said pieces of media but the links are replaced for those of a store once it becomes officialy available again.

It's a great effort in game preservation in my opinion.
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Date Posted: Aug 24, 2023 @ 4:52am
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