The Entertainment - Can I skip this?

[Mr. Blue Sky]

I watched it for a half hour until the 'freeloader' parents appeared at a table in front of me; thought the game might save at that point...come back and the story is starting all over

I really don't want to lose another thirty minutes of my life in that manner again - is there any reason to re-watch and continue on with this part of the game or should I just jump to the next chapter?

[eli]

No, it's part of the story, just like any other piece. It shouldn't take too much longer than 30 minutes total, though. You can click to advance the captions faster which would allow you to easily catch up.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

引用自 eli：

No, it's part of the story, just like any other piece. It shouldn't take too much longer than 30 minutes total, though. You can click to advance the captions faster which would allow you to easily catch up.

Yup, that's what I ended up doing...speed tapping A button

[Fedmahn Kassad]

This is torture. I think I gave up the first time a half hour in, and now I've decided to give the game another try, and it started over from the beginning. I think I'm abandoning the game rather than sit through this again.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

引用自 Nyarlathotep：

This is torture. I think I gave up the first time a half hour in, and now I've decided to give the game another try, and it started over from the beginning. I think I'm abandoning the game rather than sit through this again.

It's approximately a half hour long so you probably quit like a minute before it's end

i found that you can button past through it all in about four minutes.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Also, based on what someone else said in another topic I *think* The Entertainment is the catalyst for the whole story; originally a Lynch like philosophical play from 1973 which the rest of Zero was built around....Forest for Trees your debts are managed by banks who get their funding from the largest money making resource in your city; in the case of Kentucky the distilery and electric company...the irony being most people wracked up debt because of their alcoholism.

Since their labour is to pay off the distilery, the distilery owns them.

[Fedmahn Kassad]

Philosophical? There are no interesting ideas in that section that I noticed, and there was definitely nothing David Lynch about it. It's literally like sitting in a bar listening to drunk idiots make small talk. If that was an actual play, I can only assume it was an experiment to see whether any audience would actually sit through a play that was purposely designed to annoy and bore them so much they'd get up, boo loudly, maybe throw a drink at the stage, and walk out.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

引用自 Nyarlathotep：

Philosophical? There are no interesting ideas in that section that I noticed, and there was definitely nothing David Lynch about it. It's literally like sitting in a bar listening to drunk idiots make small talk. If that was an actual play, I can only assume it was an experiment to see whether any audience would actually sit through a play that was purposely designed to annoy and bore them so much they'd get up, boo loudly, maybe throw a drink at the stage, and walk out.

There was a passing of time while the people sat in the bar warned that a certain doom was coming for them to the point where it did.

The protagonist sat there at the table aware of the impending doom but as in like a dream couldn't move. Finally when said doom arrives it's esoterically depicted as a glowing skeleton holding a clipboard with a shipping order on it.

The 'philosophical' part is pretty much wrapped up in the brief conversation the woman abandoning her parents has with the bartender.

It involves seeing the forest for the trees and realising there is much larger picture; a more sinister one.

She tells the bartender that's she's working for a pawn shop that is charging excess interest rates intentionally hoping they can not be paid back because those debts can be sold to the bank for a commission.
Those supplying the bank; the main source of revenue for Kentucky, are the distillery whom always need new workers eager to collect debtors and put them to work in the distillery.

Ironically the debt had been accrued because of the debtor's addiction to the product the distillery makes.

The original debt monsters were the power company; before the distillery was established to pay off electricity debts.

[eli]

引用自 Nyarlathotep：

If that was an actual play, I can only assume it was an experiment to see whether any audience would actually sit through a play that was purposely designed to annoy and bore them so much they'd get up, boo loudly, maybe throw a drink at the stage, and walk out.

Eugene O'Neill is rolling in his grave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iceman_Cometh#Awards_and_nominations

[Mr. Blue Sky]

引用自 Nyarlathotep：

Philosophical? There are no interesting ideas in that section that I noticed, and there was definitely nothing David Lynch about it. It's literally like sitting in a bar listening to drunk idiots make small talk. If that was an actual play, I can only assume it was an experiment to see whether any audience would actually sit through a play that was purposely designed to annoy and bore them so much they'd get up, boo loudly, maybe throw a drink at the stage, and walk out.

Here's KYZ's credits for Lem (the original play author)
http://kentuckyroutezero.com/the-entertainment/

Don't get me wrong; I was going to gouge my eyes out once I found I was going to have to sit out that half hour again but what comes afterwards fleshes out the importance of 'The Entertainment' helping me appreciate it a bit more.

Ultimately this game needs a better save system; at least letting you know when the last autosave took place.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

引用自 eli：

引用自 Nyarlathotep：

If that was an actual play, I can only assume it was an experiment to see whether any audience would actually sit through a play that was purposely designed to annoy and bore them so much they'd get up, boo loudly, maybe throw a drink at the stage, and walk out.

Eugene O'Neill is rolling in his grave.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iceman_Cometh#Awards_and_nominations

Ah, apparently Lem's idea was borrowed as well.

[WinterSachi]

There's no autosaves in interludes - they're designed to be completed in one sit. However, in full episodes (i.e. not interludes) the game's autosaving at the beginning of each act or sometimes during the act itself.

[Mr. Blue Sky]

引用自 WinterSachi：

There's no autosaves in interludes - they're designed to be completed in one sit. However, in full episodes (i.e. not interludes) the game's autosaving at the beginning of each act or sometimes during the act itself.

Thanks for the info

[lancelot]

I don't like the gameplay mechanics of The Entertainment at all. Turning by 360 degrees takes me 30 seconds in The Entertainment, which is unbearable, and 5 seconds in Un Pueblo de Nada. So it seems that they simply never got around to improving the playability of The Entertainment (and of course there are no mouse sensitivity settings in KRZ).

I have no issue with the usual KRZ playstyle of going through short casual dialogs to shape my own story, but having to look for the next caption again and again and click the mouse literally thousands of times to advance the non-interactive dialogs between NPCs in The Entertainment is almost as bad as the sluggish movement.

[Zangdaarr]

That thing is a torture and can injure people.

[Nefrarya]

I stubborned through it because I suspected there weren't any savepoints. The thing could have been 30% shorter and still would have gotten its point across.

Glad to know it will actually be relevant for the rest of the story because it felt like a huge waste of time.