Are Bows Bad?

[Burba]

So my first gun in Warframe that I really modded and tricked out was the Gorgon. I have been trying out the Evensong Bow and it feels like it does less dps. Both weapons have potatoes and a bunch of forma on them. Should I keep trying to make the bow work or am I wasting my time?

[C.D.J. Grazza]

TLDR: If Bows are fun use them. If you're good with bows, use them.
If you prefer and have good mods and good rifles and secondaries, then go with that.

Others may know about bows more. You're not wasting your time if you enjoy tweaking the bow and using the bow is my opinion.

I guess what I'm saying it's up to you, look at your weapons options vs the bow. Then decide based on your preferences and mod resources. Check guides to get the most out of the evensong. Then decide perhaps.

PS: (if a player has completed the New war...iirc.... then two quests open up in front of you being - Veilbreaker and Angels of the Zariman iirc......have you thought about doing that content, because then you can get 'incarnons' from Zariman - they are strong strong strong in game and fun, imo.) - but yea as I said before we all decide based on what we like, so if you like the bow use it. ggs!

[[Meyo]Frakura]

Автор сообщения: Burba

So my first gun in Warframe that I really modded and tricked out was the Gorgon. I have been trying out the Evensong Bow and it feels like it does less dps. Both weapons have potatoes and a bunch of forma on them. Should I keep trying to make the bow work or am I wasting my time?

Jade weapon are meant to be used for supporting your teammates. If you want high damage weapons look elsewhere.

There is also a set bonus if you use all of Jade weapons together.

Actually, Harmony is a pretty good melee so not all of Jade weapons are bad in damage.

[Egro]

Evensong is not bad at all. It have pretty good status chance so you can put blast(fire + cold) on it to have an explosive bow. Average 2k AOE damages which is good until you hit lv 70 enemies. The problem is some of the good mods for the bow are from Baro dude which is very random.

[Shard of Manus]

Bows aren't bad, but they require more from you than most weapon types.

1. They're generally slower due to charging shots and lack of AoE (some are AoE).
2. They aren't DPS powerhouses, but hit very hard with single-shots.
3. They require some decent mods to make work due to the above, and many aren't acquired until quite far into the game or from Baro.
4. They are best complemented by abilities.

Bows can be extremely effective at dealing very good damage, and even insta-killing many of the toughest enemies. However, they do suffer many pitfalls that others don't.

[V]

Bows feel really good if you can aim and if the map has more hallways/straight line sections otherwise I go with other options that have better AOE, also depends if you have good mods and a frame build that synergizes with your weapon

[Inner Sight]

To me bows usually feel like a much less convenient sniper rifle. They're not really built to fight a horde of enemies (though sometimes the punch-through is sweet in a hallway clog of enemies).

They're great headshot damage weapons, and they're good for firing through a door or a wall if you believe there's something on teh other side, but a mod will let you do that with any weapon. And the charge time, travel time, and gravity pull complicates their usage.

That said I really have no problem with the ones that I don't need to be particularly accurate with; like the Lenz or Kuva Bramma. Aside for their low ammo of like 5 arrows. Eh.

I guess - to me - the bows just don't feel like they're actually built to be used as primary weapons. they're either too slow for fighting a horde, or they've got too few arrows to bother.

Though it might be a skill ceiling thing and I just never got good with bows.

[SmallGespenst]

Bows are kinda annoying just because you have the delay before shooting, which means they'll almost always have a slower time-to-kill than other weapons, and they're mostly precision single-target you need to aim properly and have timing to get the full effect, which is overkill for 99% of enemies and you could've killed more enemies spraying around head height with a basic assault rifle.

[Pakaku]

Evensong is interesting, it dumps a ton of puncture procs on enemies, over the normal limit, and makes those enemies deal zero damage until the procs wear off. So you could build less for kills and more for something like status duration and aoe radius to make groups of enemies temporarily harmless

Bows in general tend to be very good single-target weapons, which also may be less noticeable in early-game missions since everything is so weak anyways. Gorgon is an okay rifle for general early-game enemies, and if you like it, there are two variants that are actually pretty decent (wraith for status, and prisma for crit)

[Overeagerdragon]

Evensong is more of a trick weapon imho
Now Nataruk though.... or Dread... Dread pretty much can be built into a crit railgun with its high punchthrough and crit and Nataruk fires exploding arrows and has no ammo so you can spam it to your heart's content. Add some fire rate to each of them and get to grips with the powerdraw to proc on each shot and they CAN become really usefull if used for what they're meant to be used for.

Evensong is more meant for support frames to grant the others around you multishot (or yourself if you build the bow to have multishot). Downside to it is that you can't headshot with it like other bows (same goes for nataruk if you're firing exploding arrows)

[DeAlph]

Dread augment coming soon , hitting 3 or more enemies will grant you invisible for 5 seconds , and while in invisible, increase critical damage by 100% (at unranked) so if we play something like ash / loki / octavia / pet ability and stay in invisible form then you will deal with additional critical damage.

[Pakaku]

Автор сообщения: DeAlph

Dread augment coming soon , hitting 3 or more enemies will grant you invisible for 5 seconds , and while in invisible, increase critical damage by 100% (at unranked) so if we play something like ash / loki / octavia / pet ability and stay in invisible form then you will deal with additional critical damage.

I doubt that exploit will work. At best you'll just prevent alerting enemies when "uncloaking" since you're staying invisible in the first place, but I'm expecting the buff timer to still expire

[Winblows]

as others have said so long as you are having fun.

warframe is a game where being meta doesnt really matter, unless you are wanting to farm efficiently.

snipers and bows were never the best since outside of bosses there no real need for a weapon that can pick out tougher enemies since most weapons can kill weak and strong mobs. so you just end up killing 99% of enemies slower

[tv]

Yes, Cinta an Evensong are soo much fun to use!

[BEEP!]

No there not in fact they dish out crazy damage once you understand how to mod them hell even the basic starter bow can dish out high damage but a problem with them is the charge time and the single shot there just not a really good crowd horde clearing weapons unless there special bows that bring in a form of AOE.

Like that The New War Nataruk is awesome and with how it works it solves most of the short comings of the bow it has good AOE it's made to shoot a little early so the timed charge shot is more powerful than a full charge and you can mod it so that timed charge shot can basically be set off at the press of a button plus is has infinite ammo and it can dish off enough damage to kill even lvl 100+ with a half baked build.

Also something about Warframe you should really know there are almost no actual bad weapon in Warframe there are most certainly better weapons but almost everything can be modded to do even some of the highest lvl content once you know how to properly mod and have the right mods so instead of chasing the best weapons chase what is most enjoyable to play instead.

[DeAlph]

Автор сообщения: Winblows

as others have said so long as you are having fun.

warframe is a game where being meta doesnt really matter, unless you are wanting to farm efficiently.

snipers and bows were never the best since outside of bosses there no real need for a weapon that can pick out tougher enemies since most weapons can kill weak and strong mobs. so you just end up killing 99% of enemies slower

yes, meta doesn't matter, but if Slam Kong kills enemies within the 18m range and can be spam, I bet it efficient than using a bow.