New war: Don't play it.

[Zerfyx]

New war sucks. And the best part is, since it sucks so much you don't want to finish it, you can no longer play the game. 10/10 game design. If you're going to make something like that, maybe don't make it terrible?

[whyyyyyyyyyyy]

moral of the story: award a jester to him

[Silenzeio]

Publicado originalmente por Vee:

It is the segway into their new play style in the Paradox update. Aka, their attempt to turn Warframe into a souls game.

New account Vee?

[Basan™]

Publicado originalmente por Palkas:

Everyone is so satisfied by attacking hostile review, trying to make them as some 'sucker at game'. playing royal guard, eh? but whatever you guys say, truth is, new war has its sucking parts. and it's critical. just look at the all plot holes and failed mise-en-scene. wasting characters. skipping basics? wow, man. wow..

Not quite, please stop twisting things into being dichotomized "yes or no" sort of answer things to suit your own agenda. And, highly alas, right now you're reminding me a lot of Vee with that usual self-righteous posture of his/hers.

If you even bothered to see many people's replies, including my own, we've pointed both the weak and stronger points of that quest alongside with also presenting solutions so that the OP (or anyone else feeling hardships) could get past The New War quest nearly unscathed.

Imho, most of the problem with today's gaming is that the current generations were taught to always expect instant gratification instead of having the feeling to have earned it through using their brain's prowess and some resilience tagged along to overcome the difficulties laid upon their path.
I happen to prefer the game as a stealthier and out of the rushing meta PVE things because it tends to be more fun to me that way, even if not as instantly resources rewarding as to others.

But hey, to each their own personal flavours and I happen to respect other people's PoV's regarding this matter... provided tha they can also respect mine diverging ones.

Publicado originalmente por the2pages:

Publicado originalmente por vid23:

The only remotely difficult thing in the quest was the stealth one on fortuna, and only if youre impatient

That ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stealth section.

*Meh* I happen to have done it in a single run. And why? Because I happened to observe the Deacons patrolling patterns before deciding upon which path to take.

Rushing things won't always get where you want to be IRL either, so please start considering that other PoV's and different approaches into subjectcs are acceptable as well.

[Pharaoh]

I didn't have a single problem with it. I don't understand what anyone that's complaining is talking about. The funny thing is most people have probably done it anyway so what is the point of even complaining. It really does not take that long. And it's actually kind of fun! oh no!

[dolphood]

HES RIGHT

[Ittrix]

Publicado originalmente por Pharaoh:

I didn't have a single problem with it. I don't understand what anyone that's complaining is talking about. The funny thing is most people have probably done it anyway so what is the point of even complaining. It really does not take that long. And it's actually kind of fun! oh no!

~6 hours is DE's metric, isn't it? People complained about ash because it took around 8 hours of farming for rotation C on defense or survival- and DE agreed it was too long and moved his loot to A rotation.

I didn't have an issue with it, but I could certainly see someone who does not jive with new war being pissed about getting stuck in a 6 hour honeypot that's nothing like warframe.

It's this, basically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1ZKcZbi1rg&ab_channel=ProZD
Except... not optional once you've started.

I'm lucky I liked it. It would've really sucked if I didn't.

[Milla]

90% loved it? Wtf are you on about, at least in my discord everyone unanimously agrees that The New War was a chore and felt terrible to play. When I launch "Warframe" I want to play "Warframe", in no alternate world do I want to play Assassins Creed but infinitely worse. DE needs to understand that when you launch a game, that's the game you wanna play.

[Silenzeio]

Publicado originalmente por Milla:

90% loved it? Wtf are you on about, at least in my discord everyone unanimously agrees that The New War was a chore and felt terrible to play. When I launch "Warframe" I want to play "Warframe", in no alternate world do I want to play Assassins Creed but infinitely worse. DE needs to understand that when you launch a game, that's the game you wanna play.

I launch Warframe and played... Warframe. And experienced the story of it. That's what i wanted to play and experience and i got it in droves. New War was fantastic.

[Lil Drizzle || NeckRope]

I loved it. Though I think they could have done a better job of allowing you to still do core warframe content while in the quest (Even if it was in the form of checkpoints that allowed you to essentially pause the quest at that point and come back later)

[Inner Sight]

Eh. The game play honestly could have been a little better. i think the quest had to be easy though. You can't make your main story content too hard or you can soft-lock people that aren't at a certain bar of skill in games. But it wasn't so bad you just shouldn't play it.

I do think they should have made it in smaller chunks though. I always feel uncomfortably claustrophobic when I'm in one of those quests that lock you away from everything else for more than a run or two. I am never in the mood to spend a whole day or two on some quest.

I see The New War as necessary though. while the game play wasn't as fun as playing one of my warframes in a regular mission the quest was introducing us to new characters and game styles that we were going to be subjected to as normal missions from that point on; like Kahl's missions. And they made it as interesting as they could with what was really an interactive cinematic story.

The biggest complaint I have for it is just that they locked me into the quest - and nothing but the quest - until I finished it. It's too long for that.

[OG.RESIST II]

skill issue

[Basan™]

Publicado originalmente por Milla:

90% loved it? Wtf are you on about, at least in my discord everyone unanimously agrees that The New War was a chore and felt terrible to play. When I launch "Warframe" I want to play "Warframe", in no alternate world do I want to play Assassins Creed but infinitely worse. DE needs to understand that when you launch a game, that's the game you wanna play.

A sample from a rather unbased Discord source cannot be compared with the metrics that were linked previously upon this thread.
I happened to have had a slight issue with The New War but I've enjoyed it throughtout the most part of it. Different mindsets, different opinions.
And since the linked majority still liked it, I'd even dare to say that democratically your PoV becomes sort of mute when compared to the majority.

[Aerond]

Publicado originalmente por Basan™:

Publicado originalmente por Milla:

90% loved it? Wtf are you on about, at least in my discord everyone unanimously agrees that The New War was a chore and felt terrible to play. When I launch "Warframe" I want to play "Warframe", in no alternate world do I want to play Assassins Creed but infinitely worse. DE needs to understand that when you launch a game, that's the game you wanna play.

A sample from a rather unbased Discord source cannot be compared with the metrics that were linked previously upon this thread.
I happened to have had a slight issue with The New War but I've enjoyed it throughtout the most part of it. Different mindsets, different opinions.
And since the linked majority still liked it, I'd even dare to say that democratically your PoV becomes sort of mute when compared to the majority.

I'd stop arguing if the anecdotal proofs they use was "My Discord".

[Basan™]

Publicado originalmente por Aerond:

Publicado originalmente por Basan™:

A sample from a rather unbased Discord source ...

I'd stop arguing if the anecdotal proofs they use was "My Discord".

Alas, most people these days tend to forget what reliable is and as a gamer since the rather ZX Scpectrum 'PC' days, I'm always leaned to enlighten the most likely younger masses that, highly alas, tend to mix up and confuse sound basis for information like new channels/ reputable news sites as opposed to anything used by the masses site(s)/program(s) users (like for instance Twitter, 'FaceBroke' or Instagram) that may decide to spew whatever they wish as if it was a sound, checked, verified and valid news source and/or information when it reality is isn's such.

[Unerbroken]

Well why it sucks? care to explain or L+Skill?