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Icarus Feb 8, 2020 @ 12:21pm
Kuva Bramma element
Whats the best element for this weapon ?
I was trying to get the shock ephemera with my volt and the bramma popd on a larvling so now i have a 25% elec bramma ..
Is this good enough ? should i keep it and do the thing when u invest/disolve/whatever you do with other weapons to increse anothers element % ?
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Alucard † Feb 8, 2020 @ 12:30pm 
I personally went with Heat as i love the additional procs and dmg to flesh when going Corrosive, also boosts Gas and procs from this weapon are no joke in addition to its raw power.
Last edited by Alucard †; Feb 8, 2020 @ 12:31pm
Pakaku Feb 8, 2020 @ 12:33pm 
Elec is fine, you can mod it into Radiation or Corrosive which are both useful. I usually go for Toxin, because that gives me options for Corrosive or Viral. I could also see the argument for Heat by itself, or built for Gas or Radiation.
wynnie Feb 8, 2020 @ 1:03pm 
Ignore the first reply, heat does nothing for gas. It would be fine if you wanted a heat / cor builds, but I'd say on Bramma either gas or corrosive, so you really want tox the most, it's the most flexible for all the builds you'd actually want on Bramma.
Alucard † Feb 8, 2020 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by wynnie:
Ignore the first reply, heat does nothing for gas. It would be fine if you wanted a heat / cor builds, but I'd say on Bramma either gas or corrosive, so you really want tox the most, it's the most flexible for all the builds you'd actually want on Bramma.

Does nothing? Hellooo...
Heat + Toxin = Gas lol

More Heat or more Toxin = more Gas
In what way Toxin is better at boosting Gas damage than Heat?

They both combine in the same way. Heat and Corrosive is really good duo on weapons like this. Not saying Toxin is bad either if you want to go pure Corrosive or Viral route (Tho one would argue that after Heat changes to its procs and adding armor reduction Viral + Heat is pretty deadly combo aswell especially when paired with Slash procs from Hunter Munitions.)

but saying that innate Heat doesn't add up to Gas dmg is just beyond silly for someone with 11k hrs.
Last edited by Alucard †; Feb 8, 2020 @ 1:42pm
Mystra4 Feb 8, 2020 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:
Originally posted by wynnie:
Ignore the first reply, heat does nothing for gas. It would be fine if you wanted a heat / cor builds, but I'd say on Bramma either gas or corrosive, so you really want tox the most, it's the most flexible for all the builds you'd actually want on Bramma.

Does nothing? Hellooo...
Heat + Toxin = Gas lol

More Heat or more Toxin = more Gas
In what way Toxin is better at boosting Gas damage than Heat?

They both combine in the same way. Heat and Corrosive is really good duo on weapons like this. Not saying Toxin is bad either if you want to go pure Corrosive or Viral route (Tho one would argue that after Heat changes to its procs and adding armor reduction Viral + Heat is pretty deadly combo aswell especially when paired with Slash procs from Hunter Munitions.)

but saying that innate Heat doesn't add up to Gas dmg is just beyond silly for someone with 11k hrs.
The damage dealt by a GAS PROC scales based on the amount of TOXIN damage (The proc itself is Toxin, NOT Gas.) Increasing Heat damage may increase the bias of the proc toward Gas, but does not make it more powerful.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Damage/Gas_Damage
No_Quarter (Banned) Feb 8, 2020 @ 2:27pm 
Heat is a pretty universal element to begin with and with it Viral works well.

Heat alone won't work as well cause you'd get Gas and that only works well with big crowds, otherwise pretty meh.

So take heat, build for VIral and you should be fine.
Alucard † Feb 8, 2020 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by Mystra4:
Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Does nothing? Hellooo...
Heat + Toxin = Gas lol

More Heat or more Toxin = more Gas
In what way Toxin is better at boosting Gas damage than Heat?

They both combine in the same way. Heat and Corrosive is really good duo on weapons like this. Not saying Toxin is bad either if you want to go pure Corrosive or Viral route (Tho one would argue that after Heat changes to its procs and adding armor reduction Viral + Heat is pretty deadly combo aswell especially when paired with Slash procs from Hunter Munitions.)

but saying that innate Heat doesn't add up to Gas dmg is just beyond silly for someone with 11k hrs.
The damage dealt by a GAS PROC scales based on the amount of TOXIN damage (The proc itself is Toxin, NOT Gas.) Increasing Heat damage may increase the bias of the proc toward Gas, but does not make it more powerful.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Damage/Gas_Damage

Oh ..oh my. Then sorry my bad i always thought that the Gas proc despite being "Toxin" its power was scaling of raw Gas Damage not just the power of Toxin mod/innate effect itself.
Last edited by Alucard †; Feb 8, 2020 @ 2:38pm
Fraggoth Feb 8, 2020 @ 3:05pm 
Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:
Originally posted by Mystra4:
The damage dealt by a GAS PROC scales based on the amount of TOXIN damage (The proc itself is Toxin, NOT Gas.) Increasing Heat damage may increase the bias of the proc toward Gas, but does not make it more powerful.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Damage/Gas_Damage

Oh ..oh my. Then sorry my bad i always thought that the Gas proc despite being "Toxin" its power was scaling of raw Gas Damage not just the power of Toxin mod/innate effect itself.

Don't worry, absolutely nowhere in the game itself is that particular interaction alluded to or described.

Worth noting/reiterating that the Fire portion of the Gas elemental combo will still boost the damage of your weapon and the initial Gas damage hit itself, but will NOT do anything for the resultant cloud proc effect.

On top of all this is the way that the "Bane of <faction>" mods and their equivalents for other weapon types interact with Damage Over Time procs like Gas, Toxin, Slash, etc. due to how those are calculated for your damage - Gas and Slash procs become CRAZY strong.
Security Cam #7 (Banned) Feb 8, 2020 @ 3:13pm 
I went with radiation
Mangoose Feb 24, 2020 @ 3:50pm 
Originally posted by Fraggoth:
Originally posted by ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

Oh ..oh my. Then sorry my bad i always thought that the Gas proc despite being "Toxin" its power was scaling of raw Gas Damage not just the power of Toxin mod/innate effect itself.

Don't worry, absolutely nowhere in the game itself is that particular interaction alluded to or described.

Worth noting/reiterating that the Fire portion of the Gas elemental combo will still boost the damage of your weapon and the initial Gas damage hit itself, but will NOT do anything for the resultant cloud proc effect.

On top of all this is the way that the "Bane of <faction>" mods and their equivalents for other weapon types interact with Damage Over Time procs like Gas, Toxin, Slash, etc. due to how those are calculated for your damage - Gas and Slash procs become CRAZY strong.
Innate toxin will also not be take account by the Toxin DoT Damage resulting from Toxin or Gas procs: "However, innate Toxin b Toxin damage from weapons such as the Paracyst does not contribute to the damage-over-time ticks"

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Damage/Toxin_Damage

And in case this is new knowledge for you: Both Toxin and Gas status eventually end up proccing a Toxin Damage/Toxin DoT, whether directly or via gas cloud.

Gas damage's status effect is Toxin Cloud, which produces small toxin cloud that deals Toxin damage (notably not Gas damage) to all enemies within its 3-meter radius.

Which, btw, means that Heat mods does NOT increase the resultant Toxin DoT from a Gas proc. A better way to think about it is: Gas proc is a status that CREATES Toxin procs. It's a proxy-proc. A transition stage? Gas DAMAGE only exists as a one-hit-wonder; there is no Gas DoT. Just a cloud of proxy procs.

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Damage/Gas_Damage

Try reading what you link, guys.
Revalopod Feb 25, 2020 @ 5:08am 
I have radiation as bonus element and then mod for viral so I can use Primed Cyro Rounds for big damage
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