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edit, it was not easyly found through the usual channels i'd expect on steam, but i looked over the EULA. of note:
then, looking at the privacy policy:
of note here, in the boldened section, "as permitted by law." also, in the service provider section that follows, they mention that they contract with companies that "provide services."
this language is loose enough to permit them to basically sell your information including your email address, ip address, and even the last website you visited.
in light of this, i am uninstalling US^2 until such a time they either compensate me for the sale of my information, or they stop collecting.
As for files, it needs access to your Documents folder because that is where simulations, object files, images, and videos are stored. You can see this in your Universe Sandbox folder in Documents. I wish Apple's messages about this were a bit more clear. I understand why you may feel alarmed seeing this! But again, we are not doing anything malicious, this is just new security checks in Catalina.
Dr Gori, we are NOT selling anyone's information. This is a standard EULA and privacy policy. I think the most relevant bit of information in what you quoted is that we share information only with Google Analytics (and have no plans to change this). We use Google Analytics to collect non-personally-identifiable data that we analyze simply to improve Universe Sandbox. We look at data about application crashes, which simulations are most popular, things like that. You can completely disable this if you uncheck "Allow Usage Statistics" in Home > Settings.
Our policies cover our websites too, and yes, we work with many other companies that provide services, such as Steam, Humble Bundle, Amazon, some to provide services like distributing Universe Sandbox and others that process payments if you buy Universe Sandbox on our website. We are not selling your data to anyone.
because, you (general you, not you personally) might change your mind in the future, and the terms of the deal now allow you to sell information.
also, while it is easier to update "collective" policies, you really ought to separate those of the site from the game. there is no reason i should have to agree to let you see my last website visited to use the software, but not your website.
i shall not be agreeing to any eula that contains this as a possability,and i shall be preventing anyone in my household from installing your spyware.
this is remiscent of those "wallpaper" apps you see on the stores,they work in the same way:pretty pictures of space whilst recording all your private information.
having a clever eula doesnt clear you of being a data thief,nor do clever replies blaming others or "its the software not our fault guv".
this should be removed from sale until an independant group can verify its not a nasty.
obviously therell be the numbnuts that say "i dont care",but then its likely once their bank accounts get hacked in a years time theyll be squeaming the loudest ,,poor dears..wont affect a lot of the others/the fanboy club, as not being old enough to have a bank account etc keeps you safe,,,for a while,,,,till mummy and daddy get hacked instead eh..
oh and well spotted Billy..
These security messages about accessing keystrokes and files are a brand new thing with the latest version of macOS (10.15 Catalina). Every third party application that accesses files now has to have permission to do so, whether they are save files, settings, or anything else. And every application that uses global shortcuts or otherwise has to access keyboard input separately needs permission. These new security requirements and triggers are new to Mac developers (including us), so we're still working through them. Like I said in my previous reply, we think the plugin we use to interpret other keyboard layouts is triggering this. But it might also be the version of Unity that we’re using (there’s a thread here: https://forum.unity.com/threads/mac-build-rejected-due-for-requesting-for-accessibility-access-for-keystrokes.758789/). I understand the Mac security message sounds concerning, but I promise we are not using it for any malicious purposes.
Does it really make sense that we’d spend years developing a $30 gravity simulator (with a relatively niche appeal) to hide some spyware? That we’d hire astrophysicists and release updates over years in Early Access to do this? A simple and inexpensive wallpaper application makes a bit more sense for that… :)
Our policy already states explicitly that we do not do this. See the last sentence in what you quoted: “Giant Army does not share, rent, or trade your personal information with third parties for their promotional purposes.” Where we do work with third party companies and services, like Google Analytics, we state explicitly that we only do this so they can “help us provide, maintain and improve our products and services.” It is all about analyzing data about how people use Universe Sandbox so we can improve it. If you'd like, you can turn off usage statistics in Home > Settings.
I'm 100% focused on creating the best universe and space simulation software possible, not making a bit more money by throwing our reputation under a bus.
I don't think this will go on very long, when developers notice that their applications are asking for strange permissions that's a great incentive to figure out why and clean stuff up.
and also:
emphasis mine.
furthermore, the section you quoted listed "rent, trade, or share." "sell" is none of those things.
again, i know you are denying that your company is doing this, but the thing is you're forcing customers to agree to let you do so. if you are not doing this, there is no need to ask for these permissions. turning off the setting, as you suggest, does nothing to solve the problem. the problem is not the data collection in and of itself, it's that you're asking for permissions you do not need or use.
i should not have to consent to allowing you to view the last website i visited in order to use the US^2 software, which is how it currently is now.
I certainly understand your concern about how this is a collective policy that covers both our website and the actual Universe Sandbox software. As you mentioned, it's easier to maintain a single policy, but I do understand how it may not be ideal as someone who just wants to use the software. We're going to forward this thread to our lawyer and see if they have any comments or suggestions for how we can improve this. Thank you for your feedback!
Seriously, that's a broad scope message that is in almost every single EULA.
He'd find the same thing in Steam's EULA. Collecting data. I'm pretty sure he agreed to that. :P
Heck, Microsoft has that in their EULA for Windows! Macintosh has the same. Or worded near the same.
IT is literally a catch all in EULA around the world.
I've never seen a single EULA that doesn't contain something akin to that.
Besides, they're not legally binding, so he can flat out ignore it.
I have no idea why people have to be so paranoid that they cannot actually look up and understand how things work.
THe entire point of the EULA saying it can give your personal information is to help the United States government, I.E, the FBI, in case of you doing something illegal.
the difference is the data collected is used to drive features of the program itself. this program has no such features.
then you havent read many for many types of product. no, not every single EULA uses this sort of clause.
that's a grey issue in my jurisdiction. the enforcability of EULAs is typically on a case by case basis.
no, that's not the point of it, according to the text. in fact, there is nothing they should be able to collect to even give the FBI in such a case, the program does not upload anything to its own service. valve and/or google could have information to share, but that's it. especially given that the FBI's jurisdiction is interstate crime and federal felonies.
is there any update to this? i generally enjoy the software, and it disgruntles me mightily that i cannot use or reccommend the use of the software due to these issues.
also, in point of fact, there is the distinction of gameplay and personal data in that first section, but then: which is what then goes to "as permitted by law." as i read it, that means it's open season on anything you collect, since you've gained permissions to that effect.
The EULA of this game literally uses the EULA almost every thing else uses.
Almost no company changes the EULA.
You strike me as way too paranoid to even begin to be taken seriously.
Thank you for letting us know about why Macs are giving this message. I was having the same issue and freaked out and uninstalled the game. I was also having other issues with a different program at the same time so that just compound the issue lol. I hope it can be figured out on why it it popping up with the new update.