Question for GIANTS.

[Mittens]

So, I can usually figure out the reasons behind certain things in game engines but one thing puzzles me in Farm Sim, the engine on/off input lock. Im curious is it just a failing of legacy code that you cant do things like steer or shift gears while the engine is off?

[magicISO Sweden]

ask that on their discord

https://www.farming-simulator.com/ that you can find here and other things from them

[Sistermatic™]

Originally posted by Lotus:

So, I can usually figure out the reasons behind certain things in game engines but one thing puzzles me in Farm Sim, the engine on/off input lock. Im curious is it just a failing of legacy code that you cant do things like steer or shift gears while the engine is off?

You can't do that in RL unless it's an old tractor anyway. Modern tractors use hydrostatic transmissions and power steering. Both require engine to provide the hydraulic pressure.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

Originally posted by Lotus:

So, I can usually figure out the reasons behind certain things in game engines but one thing puzzles me in Farm Sim, the engine on/off input lock. Im curious is it just a failing of legacy code that you cant do things like steer or shift gears while the engine is off?

You can't do that in RL unless it's an old tractor anyway. Modern tractors use hydrostatic transmissions and power steering. Both require engine to provide the hydraulic pressure.

Not 100% turn on not being able to.. While power steering and power assisted steering does require engine power. You CAN still steer.. but it be like wrestling a bear lol Had power loss before and had to steer with out it and while doable it was a lot of strength needed I admit.

But point im making is CAN steer with out power but its very difficult.

EDIT - Now if talking about electronic steering thats different. That does need power.

[Sistermatic™]

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

But point im making is CAN steer with out power but its very difficult.

Sure but that's hair splitting at best. And we're not even asking the fundamental question here. Why would we need to do that at all?

The number of times a farmer would have to steer a tractor out of trouble AS the engine failed could be counted on one hand. Speeds are not all that high either so at best all you need to do is stop, not play dodge the wheat stalk.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

But point im making is CAN steer with out power but its very difficult.

Sure but that's hair splitting at best. And we're not even asking the fundamental question here. Why would we need to do that at all?

The number of times a farmer would have to steer a tractor out of trouble AS the engine failed could be counted on one hand. Speeds are not all that high either so at best all you need to do is stop, not play dodge the wheat stalk.

Ya in a field the need to ever do it is infinitesimal. About only time is when harvester and tractor running tandum. So the need for it, your right isnt really a major issue.

But I like to.. split hairs as you put it :-) Not to be rude or agressive. Just to point out some times that some thing while factually true isnt always the whole answer. As in this case while I agree not needed. It can be done. But as additional info its true can steer with out power. But the need for it.. not so much.

[joridiculous]

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

Originally posted by Lotus:

So, I can usually figure out the reasons behind certain things in game engines but one thing puzzles me in Farm Sim, the engine on/off input lock. Im curious is it just a failing of legacy code that you cant do things like steer or shift gears while the engine is off?

You can't do that in RL unless it's an old tractor anyway. Modern tractors use hydrostatic transmissions and power steering. Both require engine to provide the hydraulic pressure.

Nah. I can steer my tractor with engine off, it is 100% hydraulic steering, no physical connection between wheels and steering wheel. Its not fast, it is very heavy but i steers.
There is always pressure in the hydraulic system in some form.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by joridiculous:

Originally posted by Sistermatic™:

You can't do that in RL unless it's an old tractor anyway. Modern tractors use hydrostatic transmissions and power steering. Both require engine to provide the hydraulic pressure.

Nah. I can steer my tractor with engine off, it is 100% hydraulic steering, no physical connection between wheels and steering wheel. Its not fast, it is very heavy but i steers.
There is always pressure in the hydraulic system in some form.

A real farmer, that is cool. "And I mean sincerely". I farm but im more hobby level then anything. Our main thing was poultry and other fowl. And other animals from mice to mini horses lol

But just wanted to say its great to see a farmer actually here. Best info comes from the source they say :-)

[Kilniath]

I've gotten frustrated with this because I decided to play on manual gearbox + clutch now that I'm on PC (attempting to do this with a controller on console was awful) and I've been having a lot of fun!
The only downside is as you say, when the engine cuts out from a stall or anything, input just seems to be completely disabled - meaning you can't even apply the brakes leading to vehicles rolling around.
Worse than that, if I'm parking the tractor on an incline even keeping it in gear before shutting off the engine - as soon as the engine is cut off it begins to roll.
I've fed this back on the Giants feedback site, so hopefully they can improve it or at least give us the option to manually control the handbrake.

[Mittens]

Exactly what im talking about!