50 euros???!!! are you mad???!!

[Minie1000k]

So, Fs22 costed 20euros, and it was released full of bugs
and fs25 will cost more than double, and it's sure it will have a lot of bugs too

why must i pay that crazy prize?

and they don't even happy, release the 1 year.. jajjajaja 80 euros or i don't know, is this a joke?

i'll stay playing my FS22, thank you
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50 euros??!! estais locos??!!!

Salió el FS22 por 20 euros, y estaba plagado de bugs
y el FS25 va a costar mas del doble, y seguro que sale lleno de bugs tb.

por qué voy a pagar ese precio de locos?

y no contentos sacan el 1 año.. jajaja 80 euros o no se cuanto, es un chiste?

seguire jugando a mi FS22, gracias

[Highbrow]

Originally posted by xXdolceXx:

the have real tractors nam es so yea there expesive and there always coming more the games gets bigger and bigger the price kept almost the same if you compaere that i go buy the colecters edition like i dit before i had a blast and later i buy it on steam even the modsuport is supiuer from wat ells there is

In sorry, but what does this even mean?

[Arimanari]

Originally posted by Knottypine:

Originally posted by Arimanari:

And as we see with previous installment, things rarely change for the better. There's very little visual upgrade from 19 to 22, no matter how well I tailor my visuals. Throw in several new maps, a pack of skins and call it FS25... That's exactly what I'm expecting and that's exactly why I'd wait for a discount or something. There's plenty to do with 22 anyway.

While I'll agree there's not much of a visual upgrade between 19 and 22, you really think that 25 will be the same? There's plenty of info available on improvements in FS25. Waiting is always a logical move though. To say that it's just a couple of maps sounds like maybe you haven't looked up any information on it, or are pretending that there are no improvements.

One thing is to promise the audience this or that and entirely different to deliver as promised. Devs fail time and again delivering in these kind of series. The logical thing is to expect the worst by now, but at that price it almost feels like a robbery. There must be some groundbreaking development done in this game, to be worth the 60 euro at release date and we all know there isn't.

[Highbrow]

Originally posted by Arimanari:

Originally posted by Knottypine:

While I'll agree there's not much of a visual upgrade between 19 and 22, you really think that 25 will be the same? There's plenty of info available on improvements in FS25. Waiting is always a logical move though. To say that it's just a couple of maps sounds like maybe you haven't looked up any information on it, or are pretending that there are no improvements.

One thing is to promise the audience this or that and entirely different to deliver as promised. Devs fail time and again delivering in these kind of series. The logical thing is to expect the worst by now, but at that price it almost feels like a robbery. There must be some groundbreaking development done in this game, to be worth the 60 euro at release date and we all know there isn't.

Theres plenty to justify the 50 euro price tag (not 60). If you dont think there is, then feel free to buy it from the russian version of steam for 17 euro

[Trellek]

I'm quite late to this party, I know, but after seeing the OP call out someone for saying something they perceived as false, it's a bit weird to see them making a claim that is objectively, provably untrue.

Originally posted by Minie1000k:

i'm not saying that the internet is to blame, what i'm saying is that now that you can download updates and patches, the games release unfinished.

Games releasing needing updates predates the internet. Games releasing unfinished predates the internet. One of my favorite turn-based games of all time was not only released unfinished (on a physical medium called a '3.5-inch diskette') by Sierra. Not only sold in brick and mortar stores unfinished. But is, even to this day, broken and unfinished. To the point that it's literally impossible to reach the game's ostensible 'win condition', to be clear—because it's not in the game. And I'm pretty sure I paid something like $40 US for it back in the 90s, when it came out. On DOS.

I'm quite sure the story's not unique. My recollection is that one of the Escape Velocity games released in an internet-free way (ie, you sent the company money—in a letter, in the mail—and they sent you a game disk and a code, and to get updates you sent them shipping, your disk, and your code and they sent a new disk) and also had patches. Because it was not bug-free at launch.

And games acquired in such a manner didn't have the ability to just 'download updates and patches'. Getting updates took some effort, out-of-pocket costs, and a willingness to fire up the family typewriter—unless you had particularly good handwriting, of course—and write a letter. Communicating bugs required much of the same. Some games just never got patched; it was deemed too much work. And, of course, games released on console that had bugs (basically all of them) were pretty well SOL; console games couldn't be patched, after all.

Companies putting out games solely to make money, regardless of whether they're finished, bug-free, playable, or whatever other grade one thinks should be the bare minimum, is not at all a new thing. It wasn't a new thing when the internet became mainstream in the late 90s and early aughts. It is, in fact, how the electronic gaming industry has always been, because they're an industry and making money is what industries do.

EDIT: Corrections/clarifications.

[Minie1000k]

my dear friend, i'm not going to deny your experience, because i guess it's true even if i don't know it. my experience is completely different. i have many games on floppy disks, cd and all of them, and i've played even older games, when they were on cassette tape. and i've never bought a game that malfunctioned, except the pharaoh, which had a small bug and didn't fit where you clicked the button on the screen, but it didn't stop you from playing, and it was fixed with the cleopatra. (besides I think that in that year there was already internet in my country, I'm not sure) it is clear that everyone speaks according to their experience. but that does not exclude that fs22 was released with many bugs, and needed lots and lots of updates to be playable. and it is foreseeable that this game will come out the same. and coupled with the simple fact that even before coming out there are several versions each more expensive, does not say anything good about their intentions.
greetings, have a nice day

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querido amigo, no voy a negar tu esperiencia, porque me figuro que sera verdad aunque lo desconozco. mi experiencia es completamente distinta. yo tengo muchos juegos en disquetes, en cd y de todos y he jugado aun mas antiguos, cuando eran de cinta de cassette. y jamas he comprado un juego que funcionara mal, excepto el faraon, que tenia un pequeño fallo y no casaba donde hacias click con el boton d la pantalla, pero no te impedia jugar, y se arregló con el cleopatra. (aparte creo que en ese año ya habia internet en mi pais, no estoy segura) está claro que cada uno habla segun su experiencia. pero eso no excluye que el fs22 salio con muchisimos fallos, y necesitó montones y montones de actualizaciones para ser jugable. y es previsible que este juego va a salir igual. y unido al simple hecho de q ya antes de salir haya varias versiones a cada cual mas cara, no dice nada bueno sobre sus intenciones.
saludos, que tengas un buen dia

[max954]

You can preorder the game on greenmangaming and use the monthly 15-ish % discount they offer

[Minie1000k]

Originally posted by max954:

You can preorder the game on greenmangaming and use the monthly 15-ish % discount they offer

I appreciate the idea, but what I'm going to do is wait until the game is reasonably priced for me.
I also thank you for not writing to attack me for expressing what I think.
regards

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te agradezco la idea, pero lo que voy a hacer va a ser esperar hasta que el juego tenga un precio que a mi me parezca razonable
tambien te agradezco que no hayas escrito para atacarme por expresar lo que pienso
saludos

[Robo]

Games cost to make and developers want to get paid, almost all games are going up in price if you have looked around a little bit. And 50 euros is not that much for a game that you might be playing for a few years. I am not defending the devs but since everything else is going up in price, you can also expect games to be going up in price.

[Minie1000k]

i understand what you are saying, but as i mentioned in one of my first post, since it is an advance purchase, that you buy without knowing what, and that these games come out riddled with bugs, they could have been a little more ‘kind’ to their fans (who are going to do the work of finding the bugs), and make a pre-purchase with a low price, as many do, not all, but many. because you buy it to support them, and how do they give it back to you? with those crazy prices they have put on all the ‘editions’. and on top of that they tell you that they are giving you something for free, no, you pay for it more than enough.
i have a lot of good games and i haven't paid that amount for any of them. i already said i don't buy for more than 30 euros...

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comprendo lo que dices, pero como mencioné en uno de mis primeros post, ya que es compra anticipada, que compras sin saber el qué, y que estos juegos salen plagados de bugs, podrian haber sido un poco mas 'amables' con sus seguidores (que les van a hacer el trabajo de encontrar los bugs), y hacer una precompra con un precio bajo, como hacen muchos, no todos, pero muchos. porque tu lo compras para apoyarlos, y ellos como te lo devuelven? con esos precios de locos que han puesto a todas las 'ediciones'. y encima te dicen que te estan regalando una cosa, no, lo pagas mas que de sobra.
tengo muchisimos juegos buenos y no he pagado esa cantidad por ninguno. ya dije que no compro por encima de 30 euros...

[ShutEye_DK]

Originally posted by Minie1000k:

(...) i already said i don't buy for more than 30 euros... (...)

Are you going to stick with that (arbitrary) number in the future?

[sendjes]

Originally posted by Minie1000k:

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Buy it, like it? Keep it.
Buy it, hate it? Refund.

Pre-Order at low price and then raise the price at launch, sounds like something from a book written by a drunken guy on a toilet in the 60's.

[Minie1000k]

Originally posted by ShutEye_DK:

Originally posted by Minie1000k:

(...) i already said i don't buy for more than 30 euros... (...)

Are you going to stick with that (arbitrary) number in the future?

do you come again?
i'm going to pay what i want, because it is my choice.

[Minie1000k]

Originally posted by sendjes:

Originally posted by Minie1000k:

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Buy it, like it? Keep it.
Buy it, hate it? Refund.

Pre-Order at low price and then raise the price at launch, sounds like something from a book written by a drunken guy on a toilet in the 60's.

paying 80 euros for a game is the thing like something out of a 60's alcoholic dream.

i'm not going to argue any more about this, if you guys are fine with being bled, that's your choice. but you don't have to come and attack me.

[ShutEye_DK]

Originally posted by Minie1000k:

Originally posted by ShutEye_DK:

Are you going to stick with that (arbitrary) number in the future?

(...)
i'm going to pay what i want, because it is my choice.

Of course. But that didn't answer my question.

[ShutEye_DK]

Originally posted by Minie1000k:

(...)
i'm not going to argue any more about this, if you guys are fine with being bled, that's your choice. but you don't have to come and attack me.

Bled? LOL! It's 50€.