game is actually harder than racing sim...

[Napoleonic S]

when you try to play it without traction control, anti spin and abs...

the track, especially gravel track is giving totally unpredictable feedback to the car handling, to properly race it depend on like 40% skill : 60% luck.

and another reason why the game is hard is because of the on rail AI cars, they are harder to be pushed aside by our car while our player car easily spun out of control by them, it's unfair.

500hp car is totally totally uncontrolable on the gravel track

at current state, IMHO the game is harder than many racing sims out there; in those racing sim the tracks can be memorized and your cars can behave expectedly; it's the contrary in next car game.

discuss...

[wookie lol]

I don't agree, I've managed to finish both races in first place (including with the 500HP car on gravel) and I never play with assists.

The gravel track is harder but I think that's more because it's shorter so you have less time to work your way up.

Once you get the hang of throttle and brake control the handling is a lot of fun and quite predictable.

I'm playing the sim Assetto Corsa as well and I find that to be more difficult but not quite as fun/hilarious.

[Napoleonic S]

Originally posted by wookie lol:

I don't agree, I've managed to finish both races in first place (including with the 500HP car on gravel) and I never play with assists.

The gravel track is harder but I think that's more because it's shorter so you have less time to work your way up.

Once you get the hang of throttle and brake control the handling is a lot of fun and quite predictable.

I'm playing the sim Assetto Corsa as well and I find that to be more difficult but not quite as fun/hilarious.

I find it hard to believe...

[Big Ram]

I have to disagree as well. Apart from the usual unfamiliarity in the beginning, I've found the game has become quite easy. In fact, I'm kind of hoping they make the AI slightly better at maintaining control; I find it's too easy to take them out if you really want to.

[Fox]

It is very tricky, and takes some careful throttle control, but not impossible to get a decent result after some practice.

I think the biggest issues atm are low grip and oversensitive steering. When these two are fixed I think it will make a world of difference to the feel of the cars - they would keep the weight and momentum physics which are sim hallmarks and feel so good, but would be more planted and predictable in their behavior, which would make it a little easier.

[Nasher]

Takes a lot of practice, especially on gravel and if you make a big mistake your probably not going to win, or come close. Gravel handling is good, but tarmac needs a bit more grip :)

You really need a control pad, wheel or at least something that has an analog throttle though. The keyboard just doesn't cut it for proper control.

The best I've managed though is 2nd on 24 car tarmac, with no ABS/TC/anti-spin. Would have been 3rd but the car in-front binned it on the last lap (the random skill level of AI makes a change from them being perfect, like in most racing games) :)

[GamingWithSilvertail]

So just cause you race sim means you can race derbys with a wheel?

Loguc right,.

[Maximum Sloth]

I've noticed the spin outs more on my car than the AI. I don't really care though. Online is going to be great!

[Wahr Hanzer]

Gravel's loose. You shouldn't expect old 'Merican muscle to handle well even with tires... it's a loose surface and I'm sure hoping they actually modelled materials for surfaces. Don't expect it to be easy.

In the meantime..

GET YOUR DRIFT MISSILE ON!

[Napoleonic S]

I can race on the tarmac circuit quite fine but on gravel it just a whole other level of difficulty.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by leetland:

Originally posted by Nali Warcow - Mooing':

So just cause you race sim means you can race derbys with a wheel?

Loguc right,.

So just because you can say drive iracing, which I do too, does not mean Ican drive NCG with a wheel properly.

Sims dont even give 'most' experience.

Thats irrelevant.

Thats like saying: OMH I CAN DRIVE OVAL COURSES, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO DRIVE RALLY.

[insanebiscuit]

im a big racing game fan on the xbox but for some reason i find it very hard to put the car where i want it in this game, still fun though