reset car

[Peat]

should not be allowed so fast after a crash...

[Jori]

The way the car can be reseted and when has been a hot topic lately here, after a certain unnamed Bugbear member (I'll be vague and say it was Janne, the bastich) demonstrated how he dominates derby by ramming someone against the wall, then resetting himself when an opponent tries to ram him, thus vanishing into thin air and letting the bruiser hit the wall instead :)

So yeah, we're looking into how to keep the reset feature in, but preventing it to be used in griefing and immediate returns to the road.

[Trusty-Roots]

I liked how you could reset your car just by pressing 'R' in FlatOut 2, although it seemed overpowered if you spammed it or used it to avoid crashes. Maybe there should be a cooldown, like an ability in a RPG. That way, you would think twice about using it carelessly.

[Ragequit Inc.]

Originally posted by Jori:

The way the car can be reseted and when has been a hot topic lately here, after a certain unnamed Bugbear member (I'll be vague and say it was Janne, the bastich) demonstrated how he dominates derby by ramming someone against the wall, then resetting himself when an opponent tries to ram him, thus vanishing into thin air and letting the bruiser hit the wall instead :)

So yeah, we're looking into how to keep the reset feature in, but preventing it to be used in griefing and immediate returns to the road.

Something like?: Your car needs to be (relatively) still/immobile for say, 3 seconds before the reset is available and also once you press reset, it'll take, say 2 secs for the car to actually reset. And maybe a visual indicator (for other players) that 'this guy' has pressed reset and is about to vanish.

[Majatek]

Another thing that I'd like to be added is that when a car is reset, during the time the vehicle can't be collided with, the vehicle becomes visually semi-transparent. It nearly gives me a damn heart-attack every time I see a vehicle come into view while going at a thousand miles per hour when the unavoidable collision turns into a "Tricked you, lol! I'm just a ghost!".

Generally though, the player should not be able to reset for 2 seconds after colliding with something or since being upside down. Too many times have I seen players force reset their vehicle directly after the smallest of taps from an opposing player.

[janvince]

Yeah reseting should be banned. its boring if all of the members in a crash just reset.

[Ragequit Inc.]

Originally posted by janvince:

Yeah reseting should be banned. its boring if all of the members in a crash just reset.

I don't think banning/removing it is even an option. That'd be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ waiting to happen. What would you do, when you end up on your roof/side? Just wait until someone *maybe* hits you and *maybe* turns you over? Or just sit and wait until the round is over? Uhh, no.

Just needs a timer or something to prevent abuse.

[Gordon Bleu]

Originally posted by Majatek:

Another thing that I'd like to be added is that when a car is reset, during the time the vehicle can't be collided with, the vehicle becomes visually semi-transparent...

Yeah i second that one.

[DD HAMMERS]

RESET should be for upside down or stuck game should do it auto so might well turn that off

[SplinterV]

Just make it so that every reset gives you a time penalty, or in derby, lowers your score or something.

[LeeDaBiker]

You should have to hold a button for 5 seconds for the reset to happen. There, I solved it :o)

[AHGetToDaChoppa]

I like the idea of the game auto resetting you if you are immobile for lets say 5 seconds or so. This would keep people for abusing it and also still let people that really need to reset to get it.

Just last night I was leading on the WIP Sandpit with the loop in reverse. Its the last lap and I have a great lead going into the loop. Get my speed down perfect make my way around it and just as I get back on the gas, a car slams full speed head on into me. He had all the speed for the section before wich is basically a straight line and rammed right into me as I was finishing the loop. He sent me flying backwards past the tires and before I could even do anything he reset his car instantly and took off for the win. I still finished 3rd, but it is rediculous that he could abuse the reset system to ram me off the road, reset his car back on the track pointed in the right direction, and take off before I could even do anything to stop him.

That is exactly why I am against the reset button all together. It facilitates the idea that your action have no real consequesces. You can just reset you can before someone hits you, or before you finish flipping end over end because you hit that bump too hard.

There deffinatly needs to be some sort of mobility check involved with resetting and a timer to make it balanced. Also a host option to turn it off would be great too. I personally feel like if you are upside down, thats just the same as being wrecked. If someone has you pinned to a wall, well that sucks, but it is a viable tactic in derbys. Eliminating resets would be an option for hardcore players and would make people think before they try to take you out.

[cxiv]

Get rid of it, introduce a five second delay, or introduce a cooldown.

[Coldcut3]

3 seconds of non movement before reset is useable, also make it put you back some what, i've seen people jump ahead after reset.

[tc04]

best would be:

1)
In DERBY
NO restart possible,
except when lying on roof and not having contact to any enemy car for 10 seconds.

2)
RACES:
restart after 5 seconds possible.


3)
SMALL FIGURE 8 MAP
on this small figure8 map it would also be very interesting to have no reset...

[☠ ANGUS ☠ MacBernik FR]

While it's true the Restart key is useful, there is too much abuses involving it sometimes, we should find a way to restrain it a little, like penalty points or only be allowed to using it after 3 seconds without moving