Wreckfest

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WF2 : Had a lot of hopes for it. To be (very) kind, it was .... underwhelming.
Before starting, I took Wreckfest off my favorites. After playing, I put it back. I wanna race and wreck with buddies online. With exception to overly-realistic handling, this game looks like WF1 before it was finished.
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Talon Mar 20 @ 1:42pm 
That's a 'you' problem. YOU set yourself up for disappointment. That's on YOU and only YOU.

Early Access doesn't mean 'early access to the full game'. It means 'early access to an in-development build of the game'. It's more or less a more public beta where the devs can collect feedback and iron out bugs as they churn out content updates until the game's full release. This is what Early Access is and should be used.

As is, the game has met my expectations because I didn't keep my hopes up on unrealistic expectations for the game. My expectation was just a few tracks and some cars. I see that I was not far off the mark and I'm happy because I see a few extra things in there, like animated drivers and more animated vehicle parts.

I can't wait to see how the full game shapes up.
Last edited by Talon; Mar 20 @ 2:01pm
That sucks, but kinda figured, it would be a poopsock situation at launch. I plan to wait a few weeks before picking it up.
raventach Mar 21 @ 12:42pm 
If you read Talon's comments, it seems ... kinda personal. He gotta problem with me?

" That's a 'you' problem. YOU set yourself up for disappointment. That's on YOU and only YOU.

Early Access doesn't mean 'early access to the full game'. It means 'early access to an in-development build of the game'. It's more or less a more public beta where the devs can collect feedback and iron out bugs as they churn out content updates until the game's full release. This is what Early Access is and should be used.

As is, the game has met my expectations because I didn't keep my hopes up on unrealistic expectations for the game. My expectation was just a few tracks and some cars. I see that I was not far off the mark and I'm happy because I see a few extra things in there, like animated drivers and more animated vehicle parts.

I can't wait to see how the full game shapes up.
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Last edited by raventach; Mar 21 @ 12:50pm
Originally posted by raventach:
If you read Talon's comments, it seems ... kinda personal. He gotta problem with me?
Originally posted by Talon:
That's a 'you' problem. YOU set yourself up for disappointment. That's on YOU and only YOU.

Early Access doesn't mean 'early access to the full game'. It means 'early access to an in-development build of the game'. It's more or less a more public beta where the devs can collect feedback and iron out bugs as they churn out content updates until the game's full release. This is what Early Access is and should be used.

As is, the game has met my expectations because I didn't keep my hopes up on unrealistic expectations for the game. My expectation was just a few tracks and some cars. I see that I was not far off the mark and I'm happy because I see a few extra things in there, like animated drivers and more animated vehicle parts.

I can't wait to see how the full game shapes up.

It was rather blunt, but Talon's reply is correct about the state of the game itself at least. Wreckfest 2 isn't going to be a fully complete game for a long time; it's in early access for testing of new mechanics and whatnot to ensure that all of the core parts of the game work properly. Only after that's settled will new content get added.

Basically, WF2 looks like WF1 before it was finished because WF2 also isn't finished, hence why it's in early access. If you're looking for a feature-complete game to play with your friends, WF1 is still gonna be your best bet for a while.
Last edited by HuskyDynamics; Mar 21 @ 1:05pm
Talon Mar 21 @ 1:37pm 
Originally posted by HuskyDynamics:
Originally posted by raventach:
If you read Talon's comments, it seems ... kinda personal. He gotta problem with me?

It was rather blunt, but Talon's reply is correct about the state of the game itself at least. Wreckfest 2 isn't going to be a fully complete game for a long time; it's in early access for testing of new mechanics and whatnot to ensure that all of the core parts of the game work properly. Only after that's settled will new content get added.

Basically, WF2 looks like WF1 before it was finished because WF2 also isn't finished, hence why it's in early access. If you're looking for a feature-complete game to play with your friends, WF1 is still gonna be your best bet for a while.

To my understanding, Wreckfest 1 started off as just 'Next Car Game' and had nothing but a single area (that would later become the Wrecking Playground long after the game's full release) and a single car. Effectively, it was just a tech demo. Wreckfest 2 has launched with a testing area and three locations (that total out to six track configurations, or technically five if we exclude reversed Savolax Sandpit, and a single demolition arena). So, at the very least, there's more of a game there than how Wreckfest 1 started.
I see. :steamsalty:
tbonesnake Mar 21 @ 10:59pm 
its a bag of broken ♥♥♥♥, even if it was a free demo i would not give it hard drive space
Last edited by tbonesnake; Mar 21 @ 11:00pm
Purple44 Mar 22 @ 3:02am 
The Sneak Peak demo was to show the world Bugbear new soft-body car damage that blew us away and went viral on youtube and got Bugbear 50,000 in pre-orders before Dec 2013. :))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SvRZpykS6s

Build #2 - Feb 11, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECmqTdMnL_o

We got 2 cars and I think 2 tracks. 4 1\2 years later, we get full version of Wreckfest 1 release in Jun e 14, 2018

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Wreckfest 2 early access, my impression today, WF 2 is sounding and looking great. Bugbear off to a good start. :)

What improvements and new content will we see over the next 12 months of early access?

http://www.lay-zmattress.com/flatout2/purple44/Wreckfest%202%202025/roadslayer-purple.jpg
Last edited by Purple44; Mar 22 @ 3:06am
Hedge Mar 22 @ 6:23am 
Just be careful what you say over there. I just got a week ban for a hot pocket comment to a guy who was ragging on the game and not listening to the answers given on the situation.
To be fair, I can't get enough of that junkyard. OMG What a junkyard. I've probably never seen a better looking junkyard in my fuc*ing life, not in real life now that I think of it. I've probably never seen a better looking junkyard in any other game whatsoever.... huh. I gotta go on Youtube and lush over it for 6 and a half hours. :steambored: Later guys.
They could have shown us what they've got to show us seven years later in a four car four track interactive demo, and for free.

They have game completion set at a year from now. I'll be back around Christmastime to window shop it. I had bought the tiny Wreckfest sequel but I figured what can they give me as a customer that's Wreckfest 2.0 level without charging me quite a bit more money, sooner than later. Being $30 in isn't ever going to give me anything but a taste of a second Wreckfest (sized) game, like I have now in Wreckfest "1." I have no clear full enough idea of what they "have under the hood," really - or more importantly - how much it will cost me to get [to] completion of no. 2 no sooner than next March, of next year.

It satisfies me NOT that they have a pre-history of EA. I was told by a player who says he's been there since Bugbear began Wreckfest, or something that'd be called that, [that] they began in 2014, four years before launch using EA as a description of what they were doing. *They don't need to do this EA again; Wreckfest has been running on 8 cylinders and at 100 mph since 2018.*

I think they lost the original devs and they haven't the money to just make and release a full 2nd sequel game at this point, seven years later. The second game is due. They must have a pressing need for seed money, I figure, and that is why it is in such a poor unfinished state now. It's spoken of in the sales lit too aspirationally for my comfort, but still I bought it. Now I am going to get a refund. ...Not feeling confident two days later. It should have, could have, been knocked out and complete by now. It is an easy enough sequel to make: demolition derbies, insane novelty danger courses, concrete ovals and grand prix style and folk dirt tracks run on with unlicensed fanciful fun wreckers (mostly). It's not a complicated game to revisit and better by, say, 20% at least. What is this about testing and getting suggestions from $30 customers about what they want!

I buy too many games that looked great in sales copy and trailers only to find out later they were not worth that $100. Wreckfest 2 will have alot of paid DLC, like this game does.

Just raise the money, if possible, and until it's made in a year put COMING SOON back on the Steam store ones' are renting. Do they have even 30 devs currently?

If it exceeds Wreckfest even by 15% I'd pay $100.00 for it.
Last edited by the bat kite; Mar 22 @ 8:18pm
Totally. I was prepared for a far better game, even for legitimate 'early launch' standards. And I'd pay a hefty price for a complete version, if it surpassed Wreckfest 1.
Purple44 Mar 23 @ 2:53am 
Originally posted by the bat kite:
...Not feeling confident two days later.


You where not impress with the better graphics and sound and car physic of Wreckfest 2?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6xH_xJf0hw


Bugbear Dev Janne is still there. :)
raventach Mar 23 @ 11:44am 
It was it's one redeeming feature yes. :steamsalty:
Bugbear has been allowed by Steam Support Moderation to IMPERSONATE Steam employees and ban me on the discussion hub for Wreckfest 2 for A MONTH. No reason was given for the ban.

The only "objectionable speech" I used was the F bomb, and my anger was about punitive tariffs that my nation's President is going to hurt the Canadian people with. Being off-topic is not bannable and F bombs are dropped all the time on Steam and appear as four hearts. No human eye ever sees the word ♥♥♥♥.

*Steam Support Moderation finally came clean, after I wrote them three times!, that THEY didn't do it and to contact BUGBEAR if I want to know why.*

I have asked for a refund of Wreckfest 2 because of this unprofessional dishonest behavior. Bugbear won't ever again have me as a customer. One, and done.

The people who made this game I love are probably gone. GONE. In their place is at least one dev who took it upon herself or himself to impersonate Steam moderation and shut me up. So, now this one or a couple peoples' actions cost them the $30.00 and all I'd ever be willing to pay for another Wreckfest game.
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