Comparing 2015 and 2017 versions of wreckfest

[imaschleep]

I tried to make some kinda video to compare the 2015 build and the newest build from 2017
there are tons of things that have changed and tried to add few of them to the video, most obvious ones being visuals and car handling + UI

*edited the list with some more details after playing few other verions of the game from 2015 2016 and the newst 2017 version

visuals, car handling, UI, new car models look like plastic not so much detail or rust anymore in cars, less detail in crowd and roads, roads used to have more details and skid marks, more derbis from cars and the trash/debris/car parts stayed longer on the ground

the cars used to feel heavy and have weight when pushed around and bumped, now they just flip around and drift, no grip♥♥♥♥♥♥handling(arcady)
better flare effects from sun and lights, more weather options like 5 different weathers and better shadows on every map and details once again, better trees and grass, the terrains look better in 2015 verions, the new versions after 2015 just look plastic and downgraded,

and i think its trash that you have to buy parts even in multiplayer, the game doesnt even have single player and you have parts that wear down, it was so much more fun to just take a car and race, people are anyway just gonna buy the best parts to race in MP

the only thing that is missing from the oldest versions is mod support and increased AA aka antialiasing

and they made the cars drive in same ♥♥♥♥ing race lines and nothing interesting ever happens in the race, on the old version the (banger race) really was a banger race and AI cars tried to take out the other drivers and massive crashes happened which was cool unlike in the new version where cars just drive and race in normal race lines without any agression they could have made 2 different races, banger race and normal race but instead they toned the agression down which in my opinnion suck ass

video link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAJp5Jayjv8

Do you like where this game is going ? discussion about that

I personally don't like the new version of this game so ill just keep playing the earlier builds
cheers

[Mr. VaXXX]

great video but incredibly hard 2 tell the difference in handling which is by far the worse thing, ye some mountains in the background at the start line gravel 1, lots of lightin effects missing, the older version looks a lot better if a bit washed out.

theres really no excuse for the performance in this game, they are trying to get this on consoles but my vega card cant even do high settings 720p and all the consoles got amd, lots of work 2 be done and dont even get me started on that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ui with broken buttons and missing features or the missing parts, or vinpertol paint skins which need 2 be in the vanilla game, we want 2 dnf good looking cars bugbear do u hear me!!

[Charliebrownau [HIGH]]

I just installed the game today and choose some settings and
for some reason I am getting 20ish fps now instead of 60-70-90

I really dont like the GUI change after THQ has taken over aswll

[Sam223]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Charliebrownau HIGH:

I just installed the game today and choose some settings and
for some reason I am getting 20ish fps now instead of 60-70-90

I really dont like the GUI change after THQ has taken over aswll

turn grass off and what are you specs?

[Sir, this is a bakery]

Biggest difference for me is the community.

These days everyone just wants to race like an AI. Used to be crazy and fun.

[The Guy You Know Down The Road]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Buttering Sundays:

Biggest difference for me is the community.

These days everyone just wants to race like an AI. Used to be crazy and fun.

ive been taken out by more ai cars then real racers

[imaschleep]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Buttering Sundays:

Biggest difference for me is the community.

These days everyone just wants to race like an AI. Used to be crazy and fun.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย The Guy You Know Down The Road:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Buttering Sundays:

Biggest difference for me is the community.

These days everyone just wants to race like an AI. Used to be crazy and fun.

ive been taken out by more ai cars then real racers

i just love to play the 2015 version, the ai cars try to ram everyone on sight in every race hence the name (banger race) in the new 2017 version or late 2015 verions they made the AI cars just drive the normal race line which is boring to me, the AI just drives the same line and they never try to slam anyone so no crashes ever happen in races

[justintabs]

I just got a new message from Janne talking about handling. There are good things to come for the high end car drivers :)

Won’t say more for now.

[Zeron]

I hate how inferior the game looks and plays compared to previous builds.

I hope we get to keep a legacy launcher in the Steam library with the old build, why taking away from us stuff that didn't need to be "fixed"?

[Chemi]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย goopsta:

i just love to play the 2015 version, the ai cars try to ram everyone on sight in every race hence the name (banger race) in the new 2017 version or late 2015 verions they made the AI cars just drive the normal race line which is boring to me, the AI just drives the same line and they never try to slam anyone so no crashes ever happen in races

+1
And devs never understood that's kinda raw behavior from AI was exactly what we wanted, they were thinking the AI was to rude and needed to be nerfed. I had so much fun playing solo mode for this, i had the feeling to play against real player.

I will add the color saturation from 2017 Version is too prononced against old version.

I mean i had so much fun around october- december 2014, the game was awesome, just needed few more track and cars , some polishing and that's it. There was a huge hype on this game this time, i made many friends to buy this game. They don't play anymore.

Even if the game is way better now since the big horrible build on june 2015, the hype is gone.

I hope some famous Youtuber like Jacksepticeye will make some video when the game will be officialy release otherswise it won't change anything.

I still love the game for its awesome physics but it deserve better comunication from devs because they totaly sucks on this point.

the success of a game also depends on how people perceive the people who created it.

[imaschleep]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Chemi:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย goopsta:

i just love to play the 2015 version, the ai cars try to ram everyone on sight in every race hence the name (banger race) in the new 2017 version or late 2015 verions they made the AI cars just drive the normal race line which is boring to me, the AI just drives the same line and they never try to slam anyone so no crashes ever happen in races

+1
And devs never understood that's kinda raw behavior from AI was exactly what we wanted, they were thinking the AI was to rude and needed to be nerfed. I had so much fun playing solo mode for this, i had the feeling to play against real player.

I will add the color saturation from 2017 Version is too prononced against old version.

I mean i had so much fun around october- december 2014, the game was awesome, just needed few more track and cars , some polishing and that's it. There was a huge hype on this game this time, i made many friends to buy this game. They don't play anymore.

Even if the game is way better now since the big horrible build on june 2015, the hype is gone.

I hope some famous Youtuber like Jacksepticeye will make some video when the game will be officialy release otherswise it won't change anything.

I still love the game for its awesome physics but it deserve better comunication from devs because they totaly sucks on this point.

the success of a game also depends on how people perceive the people who created it.

well said, agreed on all points

[justintabs]

Definitely agree too. November is the time to improve communication and start hyping the game again.

I’ll post the last thing Janne sent me.

““No worries, we have some pretty good ideas already. Naturally the career mode will be useful in teaching the player how to drive the slower cars and then gradually upping the ante. Furthermore, we've improved the handling model especially in regards to the higher spec cars so they aren't as punishing as before. Also controller has been improved, seeing as the higher spec cars are difficult to control with a gamepad in particular. All in all, things will work fine :)”

From what I can tell its all planned out and they have figured out how to bring the fun back in a big way.

I suspect they are currently 🐛 bug fixing, optimising and getting console certification figured out.

Everyone hassle THQ Nordic (publishers/ marketing guys) to start sending us some more info this month :)

[Engicop]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย OLDr! Tabloids:

Definitely agree too. November is the time to improve communication and start hyping the game again.

I’ll post the last thing Janne sent me.

““No worries, we have some pretty good ideas already. Naturally the career mode will be useful in teaching the player how to drive the slower cars and then gradually upping the ante. Furthermore, we've improved the handling model especially in regards to the higher spec cars so they aren't as punishing as before. Also controller has been improved, seeing as the higher spec cars are difficult to control with a gamepad in particular. All in all, things will work fine :)”

From what I can tell its all planned out and they have figured out how to bring the fun back in a big way.

I suspect they are currently 🐛 bug fixing, optimising and getting console certification figured out.

Everyone hassle THQ Nordic (publishers/ marketing guys) to start sending us some more info this month :)

Driving A class cars was unrealistically hard, but I hope the driving model at its core won't be drastically more arcadey in general. There are driving assists for that.

[The Very End]

Just a though (not trying to provoke here): Having 3-400bhp+ with bad tires is hard. Have you guys tried a car with that amount of power? It's insane. With right tires, tech and so on a car with that amount of power is alright, but the heaps in WF with their equipment and that power should be hard. It creates a bit a diversity where the fastest is not allways the better.

But, well, what will happend most likely is that they will now make it easier to please people who refuses to use assist, and we're left with everyone always focusing on driving that one car/setup combo that yields best performance.

And this is coming from a guy who is not driving the A class well (I mean I drive it, but having hard time controlling it)!

[Purple44]

Before the June Build, a lot of online players did not use any assists with A class cars and we had a lot close racing, And the racing was not as frustrating as it is now with A class cars if use no assists.

With June Build you just about force to use stability assist to tame the A class cars. Now you got to ask, did you win the race with your skill or because you used an assist to keep car under control?

I went through this with GRID 1 online. Spent the first 3-4 months racing with no assists, then finally gave in and went with all assists to be competitive online ( gave cars really good grip! ), racing for 3rd, with a win once in awhile.

A more fairer way is to give us some better griping tires. Then if you want a bigger challenge, stick with standard tires.

[Sam223]

They've gotta be careful imo. Because what people say they want on forums is not what anyone wants really.

Take flatout 4 as a example. Its got nitro,power-ups,forgiving handling,mass less destructible objects littering the circuit,large variety of vehicles that all perform similarly,damage that doesn't leave your car squashed into a ball,unrealistic fantasy environments that aren't real tracks,jumps,explosions etc. These are all things people request on this forum at times,yet no one plays flatout4. Even at release it bombed.