Tournament Rewards in Jeopardy

[Zeron]

I absolutely love the new tournament events, the competitive side of things and the rewards system.

But with good things, some people will want to ruin the experience for everyone else. We're talking about rewards for winners, rewards which won't be available later on, so naturally there will be cheaters getting on the top of the ladder.

Yeah, there are already blatant cheaters and those are easy to spot and eliminate. But what about those who cheat scores that look legit? The main problem here is the fact those people will remain on top unfairly while everyone else will miss out on points, therefore losing the chance to get those limited-edition items and vehicles.

We can't stop cheaters, they can make their highscores look legit. BUT there is a solution and it's quite simple... All the fame points should only be tied to fixed objectives, just like the dailies and weeklies. Sure, we're going to unfortunately lose the competitive side of things, but it's the only way to keep things fair for everyone.

I'm talking as a guy who managed to become top 3% by getting to 15th place out of 900+ players in one of the competitive events. Even I am fearing losing more spots because of these cheaters, let alone those who are less fortunate.

[Blood]

I know there's no anti-cheat system in place, but can't you report these people for cheating anyway?

[Zyddie]

Publicado originalmente por Blood:

I know there's no anti-cheat system in place, but can't you report these people for cheating anyway?

We are already looking into multiple options for an anti-cheat and we delete the cheated scores rather often from the leaderboards.

//Zyddie

[Sword_of_Light]

Publicado originalmente por Zyddie:

Publicado originalmente por Blood:

I know there's no anti-cheat system in place, but can't you report these people for cheating anyway?

We are already looking into multiple options for an anti-cheat and we delete the cheated scores rather often from the leaderboards.

//Zyddie

Here's the problem I'm having: I've been playing this game for years, I'm not great - never will be, driving games are just not my forte - but I know enough, I'm familiar with the game, the tracks, the cars.


On the Doom tournament, the current top score is just shy of 5 million points - whereas I'm around 120k.

Is it mathematically possible to get 5 million points without cheating or exploiting? Because I cannot see any way to get that high a score in the time provided.

If you erase the score, what's to stop them from redoing the same thing?

What's the point of cups and rewards if the cheaters and exploiters have already gotten the goodies? It would be cool to be the only kid on the block with a Doom truck - but clearly they're dirt common already.

The problem, in other words, is that the challenges are amusing on their own - but I'm not going to bother playing smash the little cars more that a couple of times if there is no way to compete fairly.

[Stabiler Afghane]

Well i guess thats gaming 2020 for you.
Dedicated Servers, Modding, ample ressources to customize your games and experience. Not a Hearthstone Quickplay-Button where you can do nothing, change nothing, dont play by rules you actually want - and people will still whine about the quickplay-like mode.

I sometimes feel like a time-traveler, where gaming was much better in that regard. But i guess if you develop communities who only ever care about winning against faceless randoms you get exactly that - but yeah, you have no time. You just want to relax. Its way to time-consuming to write with other likeminded people for 10 to 20 minutes, setup a server and play. Better play in to the hand of cheaters, who only ever thrive in exactly these point-based quick-match environments where communication is non-existent. Where as cheaters, long ago, just got banned on your dedicated server and wherent worth the attention.

Moral is, if you want tournaments, do them with people via forums or discord. It will always be a much superior experience.

[Amanandhisdog]

Publicado originalmente por Zyddie:

Hey guys.

This is something we will ofc look into in the future, but for now, we have bigger issues which are to make sure everyone can play this update.

//Zyddie

it is less an issue of CAN everyone play this update then WHY SHOULD people play this update?

why should legit drivers excited for this new mode bother with the two featured events?
its just not worth the time when there is no reward.

im not even caring about a skin or new car... if i cant even compete THE PURPOSE of the word tournament...
why then what is the point? that is what players ask them selves...
"...make sure everyone can play..." what about those who can play and dont want to?

[Harry Nurpplez]

Publicado originalmente por Sword_of_Light:

Is it mathematically possible to get 5 million points without cheating or exploiting?

Obviously no.

If you erase the score, what's to stop them from redoing the same thing?

They can't try again if they are banned from the game. ;)

[AnimalMôrt]

Whant back FlatOut 1 or 2 !, no cheater on this oldschool game...

[Drafin Tolra]

Why not just make the score a cutoff number instead of a certain number of player? The cheaters are always gonna find a way and the top 1000 is so small of a number I am not even trying for it. Make it percentages or a certain score like the dailies. Having to be in the top 1000 is stupid especially if you KNOW there are cheaters out there that will make it impossible for legit players.