Is there some sort of anti-cheat in game?

[1984]

In theory if I lost my EXP and Money due to a bug, can I use cheats to re-gain them or am I banned from online that way?

[SBG Stereo]

Damn, No Skill, I don't know who to bet on in this fight now.
(As you can see, I'm only here to stir things up. Sorry about that.)

[Purple44]

There 2 main ways to cheat a game, tweak game files or use a trainer, like nitro trainer that was use a lot online with Flatout 2. :(

Bugbear can stop players from tweaking stock files and joining a stock server with their file check Wreckfest does.

But stopping players from using trainer, I don't know if there away of stopping that??

A trainer kick in after a game is running and hack the game while it in running in memory. How can we\ Bugbear stop that??

This is sad news if players are using trainers online. :( But we do have tools to clamp down on cheaters, we can kick or ban them.

But be very cautious calling someone a cheater just because they fast and winning races!!!!

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Originalmente postado por Purple44:

There 2 main ways to cheat a game, tweak game files or use a trainer, like nitro trainer that was use a lot online with Flatout 2. :(

Bugbear can stop players from tweaking stock files and joining a stock server with their file check Wreckfest does.

But stopping players from using trainer, I don't know if there away of stopping that??

A trainer kick in after a game is running and hack the game while it in running in memory. How can we\ Bugbear stop that??

This is sad news if players are using trainers online. :( But we do have tools to clamp down on cheaters, we can kick or ban them.

But be very cautious calling someone a cheater just because they fast and winning races!!!!

That is why I said I couldn't be 100% sure....I wasn't recording at tthe time so it is up in the air, even in my own mind. The "ping" issue can do some wierd things.
"He who is faster (than me) is a cheater" is a flawed mentality in any racing game, for sure.

Anyway, I love the game and really feel that this community (for the most part) is comprised of a lot of very smart and helpful members that only want this game to be as good as it can be.

Cheers and as always....
Wreck 'em All !!

[Hoppen]

I haven't seen any hacking online in this game in my 2000~ hours played.

The wall riding thing mentioned is a glitch in the game that people can exploit (most servers it'll get you kicked for doing), it's been around in some form or another for many years.

http://community.bugbeargames.com/index.php?topic=8285.0

[duggie]

Originalmente postado por ＮＯ ＳＫＩＬＬ:

Yeah, he really makes some great points about something he didn't see, and decides he can diagnose someone as being "delusional" and "paranoid" based on his personal dislike of that player.
The "trolling" comment is uncalled for, opinions vary regarding topics, if you don't like a post, state your case. The namecalling is a little childish. Posting in this community and being attacked and /or stalked is considered ok, I guess.


This is what I saw with my own eyes in a European lobby:
I saw a Class C Killerbee wallriding an oval track in an online lobby 2 days ago that was easily outruuning every Class A car on the track. No tire smoke, very little damage to the car.....and this player was going in excess of 200 MPH.
Was it excessive ping? Mine was over 120, some of theirs was MUCH higher.
So maybe.
I don't know, but it looked like a hack of some sort.

If it is so easy to protect players from online cheating in this or any other game, why is it not universally applied in all online racing games?
Please be sure to share this miracle of technology that Bugbear seems to have perfected (that NO other racing games sold by Steam has) with Codemasters( Grid, Grid 2, Autosport, Dirt 3, Dirt Rally, etc), SMS (ProjectCARS 1 and 2), and a number of others that are full of players using trainers and cheats that are sold online on various websites.
So, please Bugbear Devs, since there are a couple of knowledgable players that have explained how no-one can boost, change their cars weight, add traction and top speed to their vehicles, share this information with the devs of all the other racing games. I would like to be able to play some of the other games without cheaters destroying my stats and my attitude every time I try to play them.
Just because someone might act paranoid doesn't mean that they are lying.
It doesn't mean that they didn't see what they saw.

You say I diagnosed someone as delusional based on a personal dislike of that player. As you can see from my comment I said that due to his outlandish unfounded claims of cheating 'ruining this game'. I don't know this player, how would I, he confesses to never play it online, but still chimes in on every other post with his misinformation about the multiplayer experience in this game. Cheating is not widespread, in fact I've never seen it and the guy above me with 2000hrs has never seen it either as well as anyone else I've played with. You seem to be backing up this guy's deluded comments about multiplayer being toxic and full of cheaters. Anyone who plays any decent amount of multiplayer on this game will tell you this is not true. You then go on to sarcastically call out the other members on here for saying the cars can't be altered past the server side limits. I'm not attacking or staking anyone as you claim, but why should I stand by and watch new readers of these forums soak up this misinformation. I'm sure if 2 days ago you saw a C Class killerbee flying around the tracks on EU servers at 200mph it won't be long before we see him on the leaderboards, but oh wait, he's not on the leaderboards, and nobody has seen such a thing (and you conveniently haven't recorded it either nor has mr misinformation who you are backing up). My 'name calling' is childish you say, when this guy you are backing up was screaming at me in all caps the other day telling me to STF up when he asked me to show him one official server with anyone in it and I was able to show him many officials with plenty players. The trolling comment is uncalled for you say. What else is it to be seen as when you are constantly writing completely inaccurate misinformed comments on a forum and refusing to acknowledge when you are shown to be undeniably wrong. Giving your opinion is perfectly acceptable of course but when faced with cold hard facts and still arguing against it with some twisted agenda of his own is not acceptable. The fact remains, maybe you saw what you claim, but there is no proof whatsoever from you or the other guy and it certainly isn't 'ruining the online experience' as he claims. I know if I saw a 200 mph C Class killerbee zooming ahead of everyone in a lobby I wouldn't be long shadowplaying that and putting it on here, strange how out of the other 20 odd players in the lobby no other videos of it have surfaced yet either. I'll be keeping my eye on the leaderboards for this Killerbee infestation of cheaters to appear on top

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@Cúchulainn...
Are you lonely ? That wall of text does point in that direction.......
It comes as no surprise to me that you didn't bother to read (or retain) what I said regarding the "mabye" parts of my post, and the reply I made to another poster here.
"Ping" could have been what I saw. I freely admitted that in 2 posts/replies.
The rest of your post above , that veritable wall of text, looks to be an attempt to convince (me ?) players that I didn't see what I saw. In effect, you are calling me a liar.
I didn't have my recording software running at the time this happened. I wish I had. I am not going to attempt to answer all of your misquotes or assumptions, nor do I assume liability for other players/posters you might have a problem with.

I'll close with this:
I'm not unaware of how this game is online. My experience, ability, skill level, etc, is easily seen by anyone who cares to look. If this game ever has the addition of achievements, etc, I will probably care more about playing this game, particularly online.
And when and if I do, I'll be sure to look you up.
That way, I'll be able to see how experienced you are, Mr. Wreckfest 0 Steam player.

As for the OPs original question...
NO. There is no anti-cheat in this game.
Short and sweet.

[SBG Stereo]

Originalmente postado por ＮＯ ＳＫＩＬＬ:

@Cúchulainn...
Are you lonely ? That wall of text does point in that direction.......
It comes as no surprise to me that you didn't bother to read (or retain) what I said regarding the "mabye" parts of my post, and the reply I made to another poster here.
"Ping" could have been what I saw. I freely admitted that in 2 posts/replies.
The rest of your post above , that veritable wall of text, looks to be an attempt to convince (me ?) players that I didn't see what I saw. In effect, you are calling me a liar.
I didn't have my recording software running at the time this happened. I wish I had. I am not going to attempt to answer all of your misquotes or assumptions, nor do I assume liability for other players/posters you might have a problem with.

I'll close with this:
I'm not unaware of how this game is online. My experience, ability, skill level, etc, is easily seen by anyone who cares to look. If this game ever has the addition of achievements, etc, I will probably care more about playing this game, particularly online.
And when and if I do, I'll be sure to look you up.
That way, I'll be able to see how experienced you are, Mr. Wreckfest 0 Steam player.

As for the OPs original question...
NO. There is no anti-cheat in this game.
Short and sweet.

Right there is where you lost the argument. That first comment. That personal attack is what was unnecessary here, not the trolling comment. Just because he posted a long, well founded argument, doesn't mean you can go into defensive mode and lash out. You may have posted less text per comment, but im pretty sure you have posted a lot more in this forum than he has, so you really have no right to call him lonely, purely based on the fact that he typed a lot. This kind of sh*t really annoys me, because once an argument turns into a personal fight, theres no use to it. You could have easily quoted yourself from your previous comments, and shown your evidence, WITHOUT the insults, but you decided not to. I get that you're probably feeling insulted that his post is effectively calling you a liar, but he's right. There have been no such videos, from a lobby containing ~20 players (from what I've heard), and no new 200mph+ time set on the leaderboards. Personally, I agree with Cúchulainn, for his well founded arguments, and the effort he's put into trying to help you see the logic - or lack of - of your claims. I'm not calling you a liar here, I'm just saying, if a video of this cheater hasn't surfaced yet, why not? Surely SOMEONE must have caught at least a short clip, and if he's done it once, he'll most likely do it again, meaning a lot more than 20 players should have seen this by now, further tipping the odds against you.

Its just a waiting game at this point. He gets caught, or he doesn't. Simple as that.
(Only small typo edits made here)

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You also didn't bother to see that I had stated at least twice that it could have been a "ping" issue prior to that post above I freely admitted it , now for the 3rd or 4th time.
I never said how many were in that lobby, I frankly don't remember. There were people and bots, I do remember that.
I think it was a Euro Bugbear server.
I have no desire to win an argument here.
There is NO argument.
I would appreciate it if someone would take the time to read a post prior to jumping in with assumptions and innuendo.
And why would I care whose side anyone is on ? I don't need anyone to validate me.
This isn't some kind of cyber pissing match.
I made a post, and now I am having to reiterate the main point of my post, again and again due to the fact no-one seems to be able to process what I typed.

"It could have been a ping issue. I'm not sure. "

Now, maybe you get it.

(only editing because I can edit)

[duggie]

Oh but you see people do read and comprehend what you write perfectly well. If anyone is making assumptions & innuendo around here it is your reply to me btw,if you took the time to read and understand your own post after multiple edits. There will be no wall of text here, in my opinion you are lying or exagerating (for whatever reason) what you said you saw because you are now backtracking hard. The way you write and react is eerily similar to the poster you were originally so quick to defend.

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Originalmente postado por Cúchulainn:

Oh but you see people do read and comprehend what you write perfectly well. If anyone is making assumptions & innuendo around here it is your reply to me btw,if you took the time to read and understand your own post after multiple edits. There will be no wall of text here, in my opinion you are lying or exagerating (for whatever reason) what you said you saw because you are now backtracking hard. The way you write and react is eerily similar to the poster you were originally so quick to defend.

PFFFFT !



Like I said, I'll see you eventually in a lobby, Mr. 0 Steam .

[SBG Stereo]

"Mr. 0 Steam"
I feel like this is an insult directed to Cúchulainn, but i do not have ability to comprehend what it means. Care to explain further?

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Originalmente postado por The Stereotypical British Guy:

"Mr. 0 Steam"
I feel like this is an insult directed to Cúchulainn, but i do not have ability to comprehend what it means. Care to explain further?

It is a privacy setting in the Steam profile.
Private Profile. 0 Steam .
It's not so much an insult, it s a choice some users make so their time in games, XP, Achievements, etc, aren't visible to other players.
It is sometimes considered a red flag, particularly when trying to post stats, etc, in game forums.
I usually find 0 Steam users to be at the very least argumentative, at worst, outright trolls.

Edit: I looked at your profile and noticed a few things immediately. One is that you have very few racing games, where most of my library is Racing/driving games. You seem to like
RPG / FPS better, which is cool.
And some kind of a ban (probably not really your fault) . If you look at mine you'll see what I have played the most of, etc, same as yours.

[SBG Stereo]

I don't play many racing games on pc. However, I was raised on gran turismo 4, so I have my fair share of hours in racing games. Just because I don't have them on steam, doesn't mean i don't play them.
(I understand GT4 is not an online game, therefore irrelevant in the forum, but still)

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Originalmente postado por The Stereotypical British Guy:

I don't play many racing games on pc. However, I was raised on gran turismo 4, so I have my fair share of hours in racing games. Just because I don't have them on steam, doesn't mean i don't play them.
(I understand GT4 is not an online game, therefore irrelevant in the forum, but still)

Yes sir, and I also have an Origin account.

And 2 Steam accounts.
This is my secondary account.

Anyway, all good, enjoy !

[duggie]

Originalmente postado por ＮＯ ＳＫＩＬＬ:

PFFFFT !



Like I said, I'll see you eventually in a lobby, Mr. 0 Steam .

That's all you've left in the tank? Yeah backtracking gets uncomfortable doesn't it. I knew it was the same guy on an alt account, smh. Same exact thing the other guy called me. Next time you wanna post across forums agreeing with yourself maybe don't make it so obvious. The only red flag I see is a guy regularly slipping his negative inaccurate comments in wherever he can then backing himself up with another account. Still haven't come across that C Class killerbee doing 200mph yet, I'll keep my eyes peeled though.