2024 and no mouse look

[alien_tickler]

yeah i get its classic doom but...wtf

[sperm]

play with mods

[Gameo]

You don't mouselook in Doom very very VERY few wads are designed for it

[Orbot]

Generally speaking, Nightdive re-releases don't change things much (Quake 2 Enhanced arguably changed the most). If you want to go crazy with modern features, then gzDoom is where you go for all that. Mouselook and jumping are built in, and experimental features like HDR.

Then there's the bazillions of gameplay, graphics, and audio mods. Raytracing? Sure. PSX maps with Doom64 monsters and weapons? Why not.

[Solar Field]

Originally posted by alien_tickler:

yeah i get its classic doom but...wtf

If you get it why are you upset then?
It's a re-release with some cool features out of the box and people are upset for things that were never available in these games in the first place?

Some of you guys have weird expectations, and that's your problem really.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by alien_tickler:

yeah i get its classic doom but...wtf

I've just played it, aiming (so looking) with my mouse.

[Solar Field]

I think he means freelook, like Duke Nukem 3D or Brutal Doom.
Classic Doom and Doom II never had this.

[NF]

There should really be mouselook in this as an option. Leave it off by default for the purists, but it's hard to play this without it.

[Solar Field]

Originally posted by Orbot:

Generally speaking, Nightdive re-releases don't change things much (Quake 2 Enhanced arguably changed the most). If you want to go crazy with modern features, then gzDoom is where you go for all that. Mouselook and jumping are built in, and experimental features like HDR.

Then there's the bazillions of gameplay, graphics, and audio mods. Raytracing? Sure. PSX maps with Doom64 monsters and weapons? Why not.

To be fair that's the point. Staying faithful to the classic.
I like that about them tbh.
Exhumed/Powerslave is the perfect example of why that's the good approach imo.
The goal is to give everyone a taste of the past, but with something functional out of the box.

I love Brutal Doom but it's great to get something "close" to the original, with some nice modern features like crossplay online and some good mods.

Accessibility is key, and the more people on Doom the better right?

[Sauriel]

mouselook does make the sprite look like painted very thin walking wood boards from above looking down from my experience of playing on one of those ports since not designed for it, but maybe they will add an option for it, although it wont look pretty.

Doom ports does have their own good parts though

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=74992

like this one, turns into an rpg mode with an UAC homebase, missions and shops etc to return to between maps or episodes, and a huge amount of maps included. The launcher also includes an update button so you dont have to redownload everything each version

If i get nostalgic i just play it originally as it should be.

[Kvaal]

Yeah, this is an oversight. I haven't played without mouse look since this was on DOS in the 90's. Playing an FPS now without it is just awful. And the only answer you'll get here is how you should play, a modern upgrade of the game no less, how it was "intended". Or to "get mods". This IS a mod, and it should have had mouse look. I had this set up to launch Doom 1 in GZDoom and that was 10 times better than this.

[credburn]

Doom 1993 should only be played like:

Arrow keys + ctrl + alt + shift + space

But this is Doom 2024 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Qamok]

Without mouse look and with auto aim its unplayable for me. Sorry its not 1995 and iam not going to play FPS with keyboard. Left that option to idi... purists, but let normal people play normally. Very disappointed. :(

[shopping mall intercom]

Originally posted by Qamok:

Without mouse look and with auto aim its unplayable for me. Sorry its not 1995 and iam not going to play FPS with keyboard. Left that option to idi... purist, but let normal people play normally. Very disappointed. :(

Doom has vertical and horizontal auto-aim. You can also use the mouse to look left and right, but not vertically.

[Qamok]

Originally posted by caberlover1994:

Doom has vertical and horizontal auto-aim. You can also use the mouse to look left and right, but not vertically.

thank you captain obvious. now tell me where in option i can turn off than ancient bull***t, and properly play game?

[shopping mall intercom]

Originally posted by Qamok:

Originally posted by caberlover1994:

Doom has vertical and horizontal auto-aim. You can also use the mouse to look left and right, but not vertically.

thank you captain obvious. now tell me where in option i can turn off than ancient bull***t, and properly play game?

You are properly playing the game, there's a lot of skill involved and the auto aim can be more of a hindrance than a help sometimes :)

Also, you can install a source port like GZDoom to turn off the auto aiming and enable mouselook.