The SVT-40 needs a buff.

[Kappa]

So every semi-auto starter rifle has it pros and cons, and they are different but they are almost balanced, the G43 and the M1G are fine they are very balanced but i can not say the same for the SVT-40 and here is why...

M1G : Highest rate of fire, tight spread when moded correctly but it has 8 rounds and 2nd best range damage, and it is the best Semi-Auto IMO.

G43 : Lowest rate of fire, tight spead when moded correctly, has a 10 rounds mag, and it has the best range damage of all Semi-Auto rifles.

SVT40 : 2nd highest rate of fire, 10 rounds in the mag, worst range damage of all Semi-Auto rifles, and it olso has the worst spread.

I'm ok with the bad range damage, but please give it a tighter spread.

[nglokhin01]

Whatever, ppl seems don't care

[Ov2]

Wut Tokarev worse damage, really???

[Kappa]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Trollz:

Wut Tokarev worse damage, really???

Yes it has the worst damage at range.

[Ov2]

Opprinnelig skrevet av SergentKappa:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Trollz:

Wut Tokarev worse damage, really???

Yes it has the worst damage at range.

For me a slight damage different not really affect the gameplay...

[Kappa]

As i said the damage is not very annoying but the spead is annoying.

[Ov2]

Opprinnelig skrevet av SergentKappa:

As i said the damage is not very annoying but the spead is annoying.

For me SV Tokarev even with the current bullet spread that is worse still good tho. Although its recoil is quiet annoying, more than that for me still decent.

[Kappa]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Trollz:

For me SV Tokarev even with the current bullet spread that is worse still good tho. Although its recoil is quiet annoying, more than that for me still decent.

Exactly, thats what i'm saying, the horizontal recoil is awful when compared to other Semi-Auto rifles.

[TERMINATOR 01]

Opprinnelig skrevet av SergentKappa:

So every semi-auto starter rifle has it pros and cons, and they are different but they are almost balanced, the G43 and the M1G are fine they are very balanced but i can not say the same for the SVT-40 and here is why...

M1G : Highest rate of fire, tight spread when moded correctly but it has 8 rounds and 2nd best range damage, and it is the best Semi-Auto IMO.

G43 : Lowest rate of fire, tight spead when moded correctly, has a 10 rounds mag, and it has the best range damage of all Semi-Auto rifles.

SVT40 : 2nd highest rate of fire, 10 rounds in the mag, worst range damage of all Semi-Auto rifles, and it olso has the worst spread.

I'm ok with the bad range damage, but please give it a tighter spread.

ROFLMFAO Svt is actually the best SA rifle. It does have the highest RPM so stop making up stuff and lying to the noobs. All SA rifles are very balanced. The SVT has a 10 round mag, the highest RPM, 3.5 x scope (it is not really worse than the GE since less magnification equals less sensitivity reduction and the recoil is easier to control), SVT also has very good spread, very solid when comparing it to other factions´ SA rifles spread. All the SA rifles do the same effective damage (scout and sniper ammo is going to 2 shot kill HSG at medium range for example) when using the same mods.

You dont have enough with the PPD and PPSH 41 buffs making them the meta weapons but now you make up stuff, say the best SA rifle is the worst changing the stats to your preferences and asking it to get a buff https://youtu.be/hmWP99NPN9g

[TwinuX]

The SVT is the shortest-range semi-auto, beating it's peers at close range but being generally out-played at medium range. (At long range, despite being the least accurate, it's arguably better than the Garand, due to it's better scope.)

The Garand has a conefire value of 0.11 degrees, the Gewehr has a conefire value of 0.13 degrees and the SVT has a conefire value of 0.145 degrees, which makes the SVT less accurate at a distance. In comparison, all three bolt-action rifles have a conefire value of 0.04, which is the lowest of any firearm in the game.

The SVT actually has less base recoil to the right(/left), but higher variation, which is why it is harder to control than the Gewehr and Garand. The Gewehr and Garand have less of this variation, which is why they seem more stable.

The SVT is also marginally more stable when standing still, but the difference is low enough that it only matters when using a scope.

Recoiltime is the RoF variable used by weapons in H&G. SVT has 0.24, Garand has 0.25 and Gewehr has 0.272727.

[Ov2]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av SergentKappa:

So every semi-auto starter rifle has it pros and cons, and they are different but they are almost balanced, the G43 and the M1G are fine they are very balanced but i can not say the same for the SVT-40 and here is why...

M1G : Highest rate of fire, tight spread when moded correctly but it has 8 rounds and 2nd best range damage, and it is the best Semi-Auto IMO.

G43 : Lowest rate of fire, tight spead when moded correctly, has a 10 rounds mag, and it has the best range damage of all Semi-Auto rifles.

SVT40 : 2nd highest rate of fire, 10 rounds in the mag, worst range damage of all Semi-Auto rifles, and it olso has the worst spread.

I'm ok with the bad range damage, but please give it a tighter spread.

ROFLMFAO Svt is actually the best SA rifle. It does have the highest RPM so stop making up stuff and lying to the noobs. All SA rifles are very balanced. The SVT has a 10 round mag, the highest RPM, 3.5 x scope (it is not really worse than the GE since less magnification equals less sensitivity reduction and the recoil is easier to control), SVT also has very good spread, very solid when comparing it to other factions´ SA rifles spread. All the SA rifles do the same effective damage (scout and sniper ammo is going to 2 shot kill HSG at medium range for example) when using the same mods.

You dont have enough with the PPD and PPSH 41 buffs making them the meta weapons but now you make up stuff, say the best SA rifle is the worst changing the stats to your preferences and asking it to get a buff https://youtu.be/hmWP99NPN9g

https://youtu.be/hmWP99NPN9g
Jokes on you, PPD-40 and PPSh-41 in real life is a nightmare and really good SMG but in the game they aren't, so the buff of PPD-40 and PPSh-41 is of course needed. Even they buffed the "Meta-weapons" so called PPD-40 and PPSh-41 not even exceed the good performance of MP40 and MP40 respectively....... if the PPSh-41 performance is better than MP40 then it is right because tye real life PPSh-41 has much better performance compared to MP40.

SVT Tokarev as said have worse damage in ranges. Althought for me still think all 3 Semi-auto is equal. The real stats show that Gewehr 43 is the most effective semi-auto at middle range compared to other factions semi-auto due to nice scope and great stability in terms of recoil and sway with DMR builds.

The Garand is best at CQC due to its 2.2x scope and really fast which make it good for CQC

The Soviet Tokarev is literally "between them" having better scope compared to US M1 Garand and more RPM compared to Gewehr 43 and slightly more to Garand. Regardless what they are, they can be called "Asymmetrical equal" according to each roles.

The only different is that Gewehr 43 is much stable compared to others

[Kappa]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av SergentKappa:

So every semi-auto starter rifle has it pros and cons, and they are different but they are almost balanced, the G43 and the M1G are fine they are very balanced but i can not say the same for the SVT-40 and here is why...

M1G : Highest rate of fire, tight spread when moded correctly but it has 8 rounds and 2nd best range damage, and it is the best Semi-Auto IMO.

G43 : Lowest rate of fire, tight spead when moded correctly, has a 10 rounds mag, and it has the best range damage of all Semi-Auto rifles.

SVT40 : 2nd highest rate of fire, 10 rounds in the mag, worst range damage of all Semi-Auto rifles, and it olso has the worst spread.

I'm ok with the bad range damage, but please give it a tighter spread.

ROFLMFAO Svt is actually the best SA rifle. It does have the highest RPM so stop making up stuff and lying to the noobs. All SA rifles are very balanced. The SVT has a 10 round mag, the highest RPM, 3.5 x scope (it is not really worse than the GE since less magnification equals less sensitivity reduction and the recoil is easier to control), SVT also has very good spread, very solid when comparing it to other factions´ SA rifles spread. All the SA rifles do the same effective damage (scout and sniper ammo is going to 2 shot kill HSG at medium range for example) when using the same mods.

You dont have enough with the PPD and PPSH 41 buffs making them the meta weapons but now you make up stuff, say the best SA rifle is the worst changing the stats to your preferences and asking it to get a buff https://youtu.be/hmWP99NPN9g

I just checked, you are right about ROF but wrong about The recoil and range damage.... and TBH 16 RPM will not make any noticable difference.

I am very ok with SA scopes and i dont see any problems with it, and sensivity reduction does not mater, it's something that i never noticed till now, even with 5000 hours of playing the game.

Here are images to prove that you are wrong about the range damage and spread.
https://imgur.com/a/Td0yJie

This is a starter weapon, it's a rifle not an SMG, MG and will not be a weapon of mass destruction if it get's a tighter spread, it will be just like other SA rifles.

The PPD was the worst automatic weapon in the game, and it really needed a buff.

[Kappa]

Opprinnelig skrevet av WintuX:

The SVT is the shortest-range semi-auto, beating it's peers at close range but being generally out-played at medium range. (At long range, despite being the least accurate, it's arguably better than the Garand, due to it's better scope.)

The Garand has a conefire value of 0.11 degrees, the Gewehr has a conefire value of 0.13 degrees and the SVT has a conefire value of 0.145 degrees, which makes the SVT less accurate at a distance. In comparison, all three bolt-action rifles have a conefire value of 0.04, which is the lowest of any firearm in the game.

The SVT actually has less base recoil to the right(/left), but higher variation, which is why it is harder to control than the Gewehr and Garand. The Gewehr and Garand have less of this variation, which is why they seem more stable.

The SVT is also marginally more stable when standing still, but the difference is low enough that it only matters when using a scope.

Recoiltime is the RoF variable used by weapons in H&G. SVT has 0.24, Garand has 0.25 and Gewehr has 0.272727.

Very interesting, can you please tell me where i can find the exact stats like the one you posted here ?

[Ov2]

Opprinnelig skrevet av SergentKappa:

Very intersting, can you please tell me where i can find the exact stats like the one you posted here ?

Perhaps he used this http://guncolony.com/processing/hgweaponstats.html
Also for note, weapons that very unlikely to get nerf or buff, you can related the stats from here. Althought i don't really think is a good idea to look to the stats of weapons that buffed/nerfed recently due to i heard from somebody that the author of that link quit from HnG due to dissapointment over developer recently. Hope that it is just a rumour.

[Kappa]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Trollz:

Perhaps he used this http://guncolony.com/processing/hgweaponstats.html

Awesome! thank you.

[TwinuX]

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Perhaps he used this http://guncolony.com/processing/hgweaponstats.html

Awesome! thank you.

While that isn't what I used to get the data (Reto released it on the 'ofishul' forums a few months back), it is based off of the same data. It doesn't have non-ammo weapon mods, yet, because Reto still hasn't given us that data.