Heroes and generals - FULL OF HACK

[Yemesis 凸ಠ益ಠ)凸]

While playing against "Allies" i encountered a lot of players going trought walls , firing even before seeing you , and doing only headshots.

I know there's a lot of really good players , but going trought walls seriously?
Almost invincible because you have to hit them 10 times to kill them , even with the specific medal you "reduce dagages taken" it's impossible.

It's not a problem of connection or anything like that since a never had that kind of problem before and everything is good.

So after those "couple of match" i done some search over the internet about "hacking" in H&G and found A LOT and really TOO MUCH websites where you can easily find all kind of hacks


Could it be possible to : not only ban "players"' who got caught , but also create or put an Anti-hack system, because reporting "this and this" player is taking really too long , and i feel that when you report someone and he get banned , 2 others hackers come back.

This game is really wonderfull , i really enjoy it , but please do someting quick against hack because it seem's i'm not the only one getting angry about those "not fair" players



Sorry for my bad english , and sorry to write all of this but i had to do it since i really like this game and don't want to stop it because of hackers.

[Sasquatch420]

i did 46-6 kill/deaths the other day with my sniper rifle. I got accused of being a hacker. While i suspect there are some out there the vast majority are good to excellent players. Game has got some bugs (being a beta) and some people simply know how to exploit a bug to their advantage.

if you get screen shots or a recording showing someone doing stuff that is unlikely you can always email the developers with the info. I'm sure they'll be happy to review and ban if they see it your way. They know the more cheaters ruining it for the the masses means people uninstall the game and they don't make money. Once the forums are a blaze with people complaining about the amount and level of cheating the game developers really sit up and take notice and do something about it...its in their best interest to do so.

:)

[Lcpl.B.u.z.Z[24th]]

same with my friend yesterday hes a paratrooper got kicked out of the game while he was just playing legit but had alot of killsl and not alot of deaths but the hackers in the same game wernt kickd ??

[Karkona]

Need to sort out good players from hackers. When a guy gets 90 kills in a match and their all headshots then we can talk (happened yesterday lol)

[Yemesis 凸ಠ益ಠ)凸]

Първоначално публикувано от Karkona:

Need to sort out good players from hackers. When a guy gets 90 kills in a match and their all headshots then we can talk (happened yesterday lol)

Exactly!

That is why i said "I know there's a lot of really good players , but going trought walls seriously? "
I know there's a lot of very good players and "i did 46-6 kill/deaths the other day with my sniper rifle. I got accused of being a hacker" this is a good ratio but not exceptional one for a sniper dude :) , but going through walls is Not a special ability for any kind of soldier during WW2, or maybe there were some "futurist" soldier? i don't think so :)



"if you get screen shots or a recording showing someone doing stuff that is unlikely you can always email the developers with the info. "

Seriously if we have to connect to the game only to take screenshots of players and not playing the game it will not funny anymore , by the way there's a lot of website full of hacks for H&G wouldn't it be possible for programmers to analyse those programs and find the vulnerabilities of H&G security and fix it? I would be a lot more effective than ban player one by one .

Since there's a lot of hacks using " dll injector" they could put a memory protection or something like that to prevent people from hacking...

[Anti-Ed]

Damn. Is it just me or does it seem like every cheater video on youtube, which shows how the cheat programs work, are US-players? I just can't find a video, with a german character on the field using a hack. Nobody has noticed this? What is it with the US faction and the cheaters...?

[Benjy_Bones]

people form the US and Asia always play as US , they are the most prevelent hackers (jk).

obviously snipers arent hackers, but for example i had a few games today with us players clearly hacking (im not saying its just US but i play GM so dont notice);

Getting stupid amount of kills very quickly: i saw a guy with a stock ppsh kill me from afar with a very short burst (not headshot and i had heavyset). I saw the same guy get shot six or seven times (by my mp40 and others) and kill all 3 of us. He was dieing but it was taking insane amounts to put him down usually grenades, while he happily insta killed anyone he could see. Saw another guy go rambo with the m1919 and clear a house of 5 GM, all standing in different spots not grouped up and seemed to spot people from a mile away and again take them out, short bursts perfect accuracy. I saw a guy hiding behind a rock with a grease gun killing people at stupid ranges.

I never see one incident and think "hacker" , but when you get a bunch of "coincidences" from the same player again and again its obvious what is happening. This game needs an anti cheat, but i wouldnt say the cheatingit was ruining the game for me, just he occasional skirmish where one person can stall the advance of an entire team.

edit and i just got headshotted by a greaser the secound i looked out a window, despite being in a building nothing to do with the objective and the person crouched in the most unlikely place ever (unless he was waiting for me to appear in said window)

[Yemesis 凸ಠ益ಠ)凸]

So i see a really big difference between USA pilots and infantry , just played some games as a pilot , killed large amount of ennemy plane etc , i know USA air support has a lower armor but you can see also the "skills" are lower too , but like i said previously , in infantry , people start firing even before seeing you etc . I would want to know what is the opinion of the devs on this .

Report the "hackers" will not change anything since , "fair" players will not want to play this game anymore if they have to make report everyday they want to play .

[Basho]

in regards to "firing before they see you", i would like to point to the tactic of "prefiring".
i treat every corner i turn as a potentional ambush spot, always ready on the trigger, and if i deem it likely enough that someone will be behind the corner, i will prefire:

with any tactical awareness at all, it is easy to guess where hostiles will be, and with experience on a particular map, this guess instead goes into the territory of statistics.
keeping eyes and ears open (and not blasting music etc) helps a lot with this as well.

then, simply put, you start firing a fraction of a second before you turn a corner/obstacle if you deem it likely that a hostile could be on the other side. you greet that hostile with a hail of bullets they have little chance to counter. and if there was no one there, then you just reload and keep going. ammo is plentiful in this game, so there is really no reason not to prefire at every likely ambush spot unless you are trying to stay hidden.

this applies to grenades as well.

this can be used on concealment as well. you dont have to know there is an enemy hiding in a bush. you just have to fire at it and see if you hit. if you did hit, then thats great. if there was no one there, then (again) no loss; just reload and keep going.

there is also this, which is highly related:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconnaissance_by_fire

since small arms deal no friendly fire, there is no risk at all involved in doing these things. only grenades and tankers have to show restraint. i would rather waste a few bullets on a friendly, that didnt even hurt them, then risk holding fire and giving an enemy the first shot.

edit:
all of this is nicely complemented by "knowing your enemy", meaning you can figure out where the enemy will be going possibly even before they get there.
i was subjected to a marvelous example of this recently, where a shrek jeep took me out while i was tanking. this rocket soldier then guesses the most likely spot i would respawn, well aware that respawning in a tank takes some time. so when i respawned i was again taken out as soon as i spawned, by the same soldier. i was quite simply impressed, and could only applaude this tactical expertise, and then respawn elsewhere so as not to play along.

edit 2:
as i have said elsewhere, in all my hours in this game i have never seen a player i have been 100% sure was hacking, and i have only reported 2 players i suspected of hacking. i cant even remember when the last time was.

[TLM.GreenBow]

Rest assured that hackers/cheaters are being dealt with accordingly - but for obvious reasons we can not publish any techincal details of how this is done. And yes, we are capable of using google/youtube too ;-)
You can read our full anti-cheat policy here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/227940/discussions/0/613935404259110494/

[KilluH]

every game has hackers. i cant recall a game in recent memory that hasnt been ruined by cheaters. the lance armstongs of the gaming scene

[nutterwearparty]

C'mon bro. That's not a fair comparison. Lance Armstrong had one nut at least.

[Feels Fruity]

Killing through walls is your own fault if you back right into the wall you can be seen from the other side and therefore hit.
Its not a cheat or hacker but something that happens use your brain and hide somewhere else.

Being killed before you see them does not mean they haven't seen you. With my sniper rifle i can get 60+ kills and game and below 10 deaths due to where i am and a game badge removing my kill cam.

With max heavy set and not being hit on the head you can take a lot of hits doubly so if the gun hitting you is unmodded.

Only doing headshots is easy if you have some skill. Plus you only see the shots that get kills so there are missing as well.

There are always websites where you can download hackers however this game has a very good anti-cheat policy and if you think if could be made better maybe you should have a go yourself.

[PennyPacker]

I will never understand the point of hacking. Some bro is admiting he needs a handicap cuz he's not good enough to beat me himself. Lol I pity the fool, let em hack... it's the only chance they got =P

[Yemesis 凸ಠ益ಠ)凸]

"Killing through walls is your own fault if you back right into the wall you can be seen from the other side and therefore hit." not really since players go through walls,

You just like as everything in game was normal , but it is not , "Being killed before you see them does not mean they haven't seen you. With my sniper rifle i can get 60+ kills" like i said previously getting that kind of score is good but not special with a sniper rifle .

"
There are always websites where you can download hackers however this game has a very good anti-cheat policy" this policy only say to report people who are hacking etc , since the dll injector is and has been the same for about 5 month now i can say that this policy is not actually really effective .

I made this post to say that i really like this game but don't like how hackers stay so easily in game and didn't made this post for people who want to "proove the hero they are"


As i said before and already twice "I know there's a lot of really good players , but going trought walls seriously? "


So if anyone of you is able to go through walls by a normal way , just say it , but as long as i know it IS considered as cheating.

ps: Just take a look at what (WarCult) said previously.

[vjscope]

Take some video/screenshot material and report to http://support.heroesandgenerals.com/ . I sent them 3 screenshots of a player that exploited something in the game that made him immortal. They sent me an e-mail in which they say that they know what exploits he used and that they are fixing it.