Aquiring a Sniper Rifle

[A. Mills]

I've been reading the forums and one alarming thing I have found is the very confusing sniper rifles. Now, it seems to be either the rifles are very common or very hard to aquire for F2P players. I dont particularly want to spend money on this game-yet. But I do want to go recon and get myself a nice sniper rifle. Any particular tips or hints, or any which way to go the easiest route?

[Aye Harambe]

Originally posted by KrayToast:

Originally posted by Felix Skytten:

I've been reading the forums and one alarming thing I have found is the very confusing sniper rifles. Now, it seems to be either the rifles are very common or very hard to aquire for F2P players. I dont particularly want to spend money on this game-yet. But I do want to go recon and get myself a nice sniper rifle. Any particular tips or hints, or any which way to go the easiest route?

Sniper rifles are expensive for a reason, They are very easy OHK machines in this game. If they were cheap and easy to aquire this game would turn into nothing but sniper fights between infantry.

I make no secret of my distaste for sniper players. Having played alot of FPS'es in the day, I've seen alot of good Shooters get ruined by the influx of the sniper crowd. the biggest that comes to mind is how Bad company 2's TDM servers have been overwhelmed by them.

In a game that is about teamwork and objective based, Snipers are some of the most useless players. Now, Some may come and whine something like "Oh but we're RECON we spot enemies!", I'd be willing to bet out of all the snipers in this game, 97% of them don't play as recon, they play as a sniper, that sits in general area, all match, and just picks off whoever he can. He doesn't care about winning the match, He doesn't care about the objectives, other than knowing he can milk kills off of them. All he cares about is how easy it is to aim and shoot for the kill.

The sniper is the one class in FPS you could completely remove and the game would improve from it. They hold no real purpose other classes can't accomplish on the same grounds. The Only thing that sets them apart is the snipers get a scope. They are useless and the Bane of most objective-based FPS'es.

Unlike all other classes, a sniper's skill is dependent on their enemies making bad decisions. Until noobs run in straight lines or stand still in the open, a sniper is just a dude polishing his gun in the forest. The moment those people start making bad decisions, that's when a sniper can apply their skill to the game.

TL;DR - If you have that much beef with snipers, it's because you're playing the game badly.

[Aye Harambe]

Originally posted by Felix Skytten:

Originally posted by Seal Of Approval:

The sniper is the most expensive class unlocked weapon.240K i think

Quite expensive. Will it take up a lot of equipment points, like the paratrooper would? And on that side note, how good are the Russian paratroopers?

Recon for my player has 6 equipment slots and the scoped rifle takes up 4 of those. Interestingly enough, the scoped rifle takes up less slots than the non-scoped variant--unless something changed since I last played.

I can't answer your other question. Don't have a Russian para yet.

[GoreTiger]

Originally posted by ChompChomp:

Originally posted by KrayToast:

Sniper rifles are expensive for a reason, They are very easy OHK machines in this game. If they were cheap and easy to aquire this game would turn into nothing but sniper fights between infantry.

I make no secret of my distaste for sniper players. Having played alot of FPS'es in the day, I've seen alot of good Shooters get ruined by the influx of the sniper crowd. the biggest that comes to mind is how Bad company 2's TDM servers have been overwhelmed by them.

In a game that is about teamwork and objective based, Snipers are some of the most useless players. Now, Some may come and whine something like "Oh but we're RECON we spot enemies!", I'd be willing to bet out of all the snipers in this game, 97% of them don't play as recon, they play as a sniper, that sits in general area, all match, and just picks off whoever he can. He doesn't care about winning the match, He doesn't care about the objectives, other than knowing he can milk kills off of them. All he cares about is how easy it is to aim and shoot for the kill.

The sniper is the one class in FPS you could completely remove and the game would improve from it. They hold no real purpose other classes can't accomplish on the same grounds. The Only thing that sets them apart is the snipers get a scope. They are useless and the Bane of most objective-based FPS'es.

Unlike all other classes, a sniper's skill is dependent on their enemies making bad decisions. Until noobs run in straight lines or stand still in the open, a sniper is just a dude polishing his gun in the forest. The moment those people start making bad decisions, that's when a sniper can apply their skill to the game.

TL;DR - If you have that much beef with snipers, it's because you're playing the game badly.

No, It's not because I'm playing the game badly. I'm mostly a tanker. their little pew-pew-instant-kill rifles can't do anything to me.

But after I fight off tanks,AT infantry, and clear out an objective for it to be moved in and captured, only to find out everyone ether a sniper or pretending to be a sniper not bothering to move in because they don't want to lose their precious hug-a-tree hiding spot, That's my problem.

[MacWade]

Play inf until you have at the very least, a general and an officer. Recon Class is not exclusive "sniper", it is a class for recon. If you play the RTS side, a gen or recon officer is needed for a wider field of view of the map. Other than that, along w/the newly nerfed scoped rifle (big sway), not really worth the cash. Better to play inf w/Thompson & binocs, that is, if you want credits/XP.

But if you must, best to buy recon officer (value), buy a BA and grind the ribbon, then switch back to the to the scope. Grind recon to Camo. Have a pistol so you can cap in close quarters.

[Aye Harambe]

Originally posted by KrayToast:

Originally posted by ChompChomp:

Unlike all other classes, a sniper's skill is dependent on their enemies making bad decisions. Until noobs run in straight lines or stand still in the open, a sniper is just a dude polishing his gun in the forest. The moment those people start making bad decisions, that's when a sniper can apply their skill to the game.

TL;DR - If you have that much beef with snipers, it's because you're playing the game badly.

No, It's not because I'm playing the game badly. I'm mostly a tanker. their little pew-pew-instant-kill rifles can't do anything to me.

But after I fight off tanks,AT infantry, and clear out an objective for it to be moved in and captured, only to find out everyone ether a sniper or pretending to be a sniper not bothering to move in because they don't want to lose their precious hug-a-tree hiding spot, That's my problem.

You know that's not a problem unique to only one side, right?

And I could almost drown in the irony of a tanker whinging about how snipers do nothing for an objective. You realize both classes are essentially suppression and zone control with different weapons, right?

And that's to say nothing for the fact that, as a recon player, I spot the VAST majority of a tanker's targets--YOUR targets. And I'm not alone in this. People who play recon have played A LOT of hours--it's the single most advanced branch in the game. If there's any branch of player that routinely understands the complexity of the game more than others, it's the branch that took literally days longer to unlock. The idea that they are do-nothings is hilarious because it's only ever supported by the extremely shorted-sighted notion that being on the objective is the only important thing in the game.

Football teams aren't all running backs. If you have a problem with snipers hanging out in the woods, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe war games just aren't right for you.

[Bunks]

using your analogy chomp, snipers aren't part of the team, they are cheerleader making alot of noise from the sidelines.

Like he said his main point was, it is the only class that could vanish and no one would be the worse off for it.

[?Splamb.?]

Originally posted by Bunks:

The only fitting thing would be anyone who wants a scoped rifle, has to have their testicles removed to complete the pussification process.

lol headshot

[A. Mills]

Originally posted by KrayToast:

Originally posted by Felix Skytten:

I've been reading the forums and one alarming thing I have found is the very confusing sniper rifles. Now, it seems to be either the rifles are very common or very hard to aquire for F2P players. I dont particularly want to spend money on this game-yet. But I do want to go recon and get myself a nice sniper rifle. Any particular tips or hints, or any which way to go the easiest route?

Sniper rifles are expensive for a reason, They are very easy OHK machines in this game. If they were cheap and easy to aquire this game would turn into nothing but sniper fights between infantry.

I make no secret of my distaste for sniper players. Having played alot of FPS'es in the day, I've seen alot of good Shooters get ruined by the influx of the sniper crowd. the biggest that comes to mind is how Bad company 2's TDM servers have been overwhelmed by them.

In a game that is about teamwork and objective based, Snipers are some of the most useless players. Now, Some may come and whine something like "Oh but we're RECON we spot enemies!", I'd be willing to bet out of all the snipers in this game, 97% of them don't play as recon, they play as a sniper, that sits in general area, all match, and just picks off whoever he can. He doesn't care about winning the match, He doesn't care about the objectives, other than knowing he can milk kills off of them. All he cares about is how easy it is to aim and shoot for the kill.

The sniper is the one class in FPS you could completely remove and the game would improve from it. They hold no real purpose other classes can't accomplish on the same grounds. The Only thing that sets them apart is the snipers get a scope. They are useless and the Bane of most objective-based FPS'es.

I plan to play as a recon as a part of my group that I'm in, based off the GD division of the Heer. I'm going to literally do nothing but teamwork with my friends. I own a Karabiner 98 Kurz with a mounted scope in real life, and quite enjoy it, so I thought, why not get it in game, see how well it does. I agree however by how easy scoped rifles are able to be aquired in other games, but this game it seems to be reasonably hard in terms of aquiring it, and I relish the upcoming challenge. I am sad that your experience has been tainted by a 'elite' sniper crowd that has come in. I apologize for that also.

[Aye Harambe]

Originally posted by Bunks:

using your analogy chomp, snipers aren't part of the team, they are cheerleader making alot of noise from the sidelines.

How about they're the support? Like the entire offensive line? Sports metaphors too hard for you?

Jesus, you guys are a bunch of whiny little grade-schoolers. If you can't compensate for snipers, don't play a WWII game. I've tried for 6 months to teach the forums how to play against snipers; you guys just want the freedom to run and gun...in a large-map WWII game. I can fix stupid, I can't fix stubborn.

Originally posted by Bunks:

Like he said his main point was, it is the only class that could vanish and no one would be the worse off for it.

Irrelevant. You could say that for every class except infantry (and maybe paras--to a point); that's why I ignored the terrible analogy in the first place. If you want a boring game with only one class, go play World of Tanks. Here in H&G, the skilled players shoot people and win matches; the lazy or uninspired ♥♥♥♥♥ on the forums about problems they could easily solve by getting better.

[Bunks]

Originally posted by ChompChomp:

Originally posted by Bunks:

using your analogy chomp, snipers aren't part of the team, they are cheerleader making alot of noise from the sidelines.

How about they're the support? Like the entire offensive line? Sports metaphors too hard for you?

Jesus, you guys are a bunch of whiny little grade-schoolers. If you can't compensate for snipers, don't play a WWII game. I've tried for 6 months to teach the forums how to play against snipers; you guys just want the freedom to run and gun...in a large-map WWII game. I can fix stupid, I can't fix stubborn.

Originally posted by Bunks:

Like he said his main point was, it is the only class that could vanish and no one would be the worse off for it.

Irrelevant. You could say that for every class except infantry (and maybe paras--to a point); that's why I ignored the terrible analogy in the first place.

well you just dont get it then, rock scissor paper has been the core of all tactics and warfare. Snipers are none of the above in any terms. they are in a word, useless. Maybe its immaturity on your part or just a lack of understanding since the xbox generation seem to be lacking two key thing, any tactical sense and testisterone.

[Aye Harambe]

Originally posted by Bunks:

Originally posted by ChompChomp:

How about they're the support? Like the entire offensive line? Sports metaphors too hard for you?

Jesus, you guys are a bunch of whiny little grade-schoolers. If you can't compensate for snipers, don't play a WWII game. I've tried for 6 months to teach the forums how to play against snipers; you guys just want the freedom to run and gun...in a large-map WWII game. I can fix stupid, I can't fix stubborn.



Irrelevant. You could say that for every class except infantry (and maybe paras--to a point); that's why I ignored the terrible analogy in the first place.

well you just dont get it then, rock scissor paper has been the core of all tactics and warfare. Snipers are none of the above in any terms. they are in a word, useless. Maybe its immaturity on your part or just a lack of understanding since the xbox generation seem to be lacking two key thing, any tactical sense and testisterone.

lol, okay.

I'm guessing it's pure coincidence that the only people whinging about snipers always seem to have less than a few hundred hours played.

[Bunks]

Originally posted by ChompChomp:

Originally posted by Bunks:

well you just dont get it then, rock scissor paper has been the core of all tactics and warfare. Snipers are none of the above in any terms. they are in a word, useless. Maybe its immaturity on your part or just a lack of understanding since the xbox generation seem to be lacking two key thing, any tactical sense and testisterone.

lol, okay.

I'm guessing it's pure coincidence that the only people whinging about snipers always seem to have less than a few hundred hours played.

perhaps because we dont set up picknick tables and watch others do all the fighting.

[Aye Harambe]

Originally posted by Bunks:

Originally posted by ChompChomp:

lol, okay.

I'm guessing it's pure coincidence that the only people whinging about snipers always seem to have less than a few hundred hours played.

perhaps because we dont set up picknick tables and watch others do all the fighting.

Because the natural progression in playing games for a long time is becoming a worse player.

Why don't you just go back to CoD or WoT--whatever game it is that taught you snipers had no relevant contributions in battles. Your reasoning is so bad it's giving me douche-chills.

[GoreTiger]

The Only people I've seen defending snipers so far, Are the snipers who don't want their precious EZ-Kill rifles to be taken away from them.

"you need to compensate" is not a valid argument when the sniper rifles in-game are so easy to use that all you have to do is aim, Pull the trigger, and boom insta-kill. No difficulty at all in using them.

[Bunks]

Originally posted by ChompChomp:

Originally posted by Bunks:

perhaps because we dont set up picknick tables and watch others do all the fighting.

Because the natural progression in playing games for a long time is becoming a worse player.

Why don't you just go back to CoD or WoT--whatever game it is that taught you snipers had no relevant contributions in battles. Your reasoning is so bad it's giving me douche-chills.

Never in my life would i waste time playing those crap games, I was an old one death per night no spawn Operation Flashpoint/Arma player. And guess what, snipers in that game took an hour to get the perfect shot because as soon as they shot, they were most likely dead or ran for their lives.