Heroes & Generals

Heroes & Generals

iiLeRoss May 23, 2016 @ 12:42pm
Panther costs more than Tiger
why does panther cost more than Tiger by about 50k i remember reading the Baeur steam news and something about Panther being cheaper than a tiger but only slightly more expensive than Panzer lV but even if it didnt say that its still historically true so what gives!
Last edited by iiLeRoss; May 23, 2016 @ 12:44pm
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Standish May 23, 2016 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by rossume:
why does panther cost more than Tiger by about 50k i remember reading the Baeur steam news and something about Panther being cheaper than a tiger but only slightly more expensive than Panzer lV but even if it didnt say that its still historically true so what gives!
Repair cost, repair cost. Panther is cheaper then the King Tiger to repair, and more expensive then the PzIV.
iiLeRoss May 23, 2016 @ 12:52pm 
Originally posted by 17thADCOCaptainRA11:
Originally posted by rossume:
why does panther cost more than Tiger by about 50k i remember reading the Baeur steam news and something about Panther being cheaper than a tiger but only slightly more expensive than Panzer lV but even if it didnt say that its still historically true so what gives!
Repair cost, repair cost. Panther is cheaper then the King Tiger to repair, and more expensive then the PzIV.
i mean Tiger 1
Cowman1800 May 23, 2016 @ 1:05pm 
The Tiger 1 (from what I hear) is the worst heavy tank in the game
iiLeRoss May 23, 2016 @ 1:08pm 
OK OK let me explain i meant Tiger 1 was cheaper than Tiger which is obviusly VERY stupid
PhoenixWing101 May 23, 2016 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by rossume:
why does panther cost more than Tiger by about 50k i remember reading the Baeur steam news and something about Panther being cheaper than a tiger but only slightly more expensive than Panzer lV but even if it didnt say that its still historically true so what gives!
This is based on historical facts:
"One source has cited the cost of a Panther tank as 117,100 Reichmarks (RM). This compared with 82,500 RM for the StuG III, 96,163 RM for the Panzer III, 103,462 RM for the Panzer IV, and 250,800 RM for the Tiger I. These figures did not include the cost of the armament and radio" (Wikipedia)
Meanwhile, the Panther is more expensive in-game for the sole reason of balance - it is the best Medium Tank and has better Penetration than the Tiger 1 with better frontal armour and mobility
Saika May 23, 2016 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by TheWingedKuriboh:
historical facts

you have no power here, this is H&G

But yes the Tiger 1 is the worst heavy and the Panther is the best medium. so the costs are just there for balance
Last edited by Saika; May 23, 2016 @ 1:22pm
iiLeRoss May 23, 2016 @ 1:22pm 
Originally posted by TheWingedKuriboh:
Originally posted by rossume:
why does panther cost more than Tiger by about 50k i remember reading the Baeur steam news and something about Panther being cheaper than a tiger but only slightly more expensive than Panzer lV but even if it didnt say that its still historically true so what gives!
This is based on historical facts:
"One source has cited the cost of a Panther tank as 117,100 Reichmarks (RM). This compared with 82,500 RM for the StuG III, 96,163 RM for the Panzer III, 103,462 RM for the Panzer IV, and 250,800 RM for the Tiger I. These figures did not include the cost of the armament and radio" (Wikipedia)
Meanwhile, the Panther is more expensive in-game for the sole reason of balance - it is the best Medium Tank and has better Penetration than the Tiger 1 with better frontal armour and mobility
not really E8s and T-34-85s can smash the weakspots very easily thus scoring 2 hit kills unless you reload fast and they were already damaged
Saika May 23, 2016 @ 1:24pm 
Originally posted by rossume:
Originally posted by TheWingedKuriboh:
This is based on historical facts:
"One source has cited the cost of a Panther tank as 117,100 Reichmarks (RM). This compared with 82,500 RM for the StuG III, 96,163 RM for the Panzer III, 103,462 RM for the Panzer IV, and 250,800 RM for the Tiger I. These figures did not include the cost of the armament and radio" (Wikipedia)
Meanwhile, the Panther is more expensive in-game for the sole reason of balance - it is the best Medium Tank and has better Penetration than the Tiger 1 with better frontal armour and mobility
not really E8s and T-34-85s can smash the weakspots very easily thus scoring 2 hit kills unless you reload fast and they were already damaged

That still doesn't change the fact the panther is one of the only vehicles in the game that actually has armor that functions. Just because the enemy tank knows where to aim doesn't mean it no longer has a distinct advantage, if you don't care about the armor and don't mind being a little slower, just go back to a Panzer IV, it can kill the enemies top teir mediums in a more equal fight and is cheaper.
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iiLeRoss May 23, 2016 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by Saika55:
Originally posted by rossume:
not really E8s and T-34-85s can smash the weakspots very easily thus scoring 2 hit kills unless you reload fast and they were already damaged

That still doesn't change the fact the panther is one of the only vehicles in the game that actually has armor that functions. Just because the enemy tank knows where to aim doesn't mean it no longer has a distinct advantage
yeah but at the same time Panther is only people who think shooting the hull is a good idea proof
PhoenixWing101 May 23, 2016 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by Saika55:
Originally posted by TheWingedKuriboh:
historical facts

you have no power here, this is H&G

But yes the Tiger 1 is the worst heavy and the Panther is the best medium. so the costs are just there for balance
What, I have no power here or historical facts have no power here? Because I was simply clarifying something for OP
PhoenixWing101 May 23, 2016 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by rossume:
Originally posted by TheWingedKuriboh:
This is based on historical facts:
"One source has cited the cost of a Panther tank as 117,100 Reichmarks (RM). This compared with 82,500 RM for the StuG III, 96,163 RM for the Panzer III, 103,462 RM for the Panzer IV, and 250,800 RM for the Tiger I. These figures did not include the cost of the armament and radio" (Wikipedia)
Meanwhile, the Panther is more expensive in-game for the sole reason of balance - it is the best Medium Tank and has better Penetration than the Tiger 1 with better frontal armour and mobility
not really E8s and T-34-85s can smash the weakspots very easily thus scoring 2 hit kills unless you reload fast and they were already damaged
E8's and 85's have bigger weakpoints though.
Speaking from my own experiences I would say it is the best Medium. You may disagree and say you think it's the Panzer III, but the popular opinion is that the Panther is best, and stats-wise, it is in almost every way except damage per shell.
iiLeRoss May 23, 2016 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by TheWingedKuriboh:
Originally posted by rossume:
not really E8s and T-34-85s can smash the weakspots very easily thus scoring 2 hit kills unless you reload fast and they were already damaged
E8's and 85's have bigger weakpoints though.
Speaking from my own experiences I would say it is the best Medium. You may disagree and say you think it's the Panzer III, but the popular opinion is that the Panther is best, and stats-wise, it is in almost every way except damage per shell.
i wont say its the Panzer lll but OK OK the best german medium is Panther BUT its not nessecarily to good of a medium as the enemy mediums can easily counter it
Mac May 23, 2016 @ 1:36pm 
Reminds me of the post where a guy asked why a pistol costs as much as a tank lol
iiLeRoss May 23, 2016 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by WFH:
Reminds me of the post where a guy asked why a pistol costs as much as a tank lol
i think i made a post about that but then again i mightve just asked about that in the chat because it was so dumb like why does pistol cost as much as a tank
Last edited by iiLeRoss; May 23, 2016 @ 1:38pm
Mac May 23, 2016 @ 1:51pm 
Haha no problem man, I had a nice chuckle about that one :)

In case you are still looking for an answer, here is my take. I think the cost of items is almost entirely decided by how prevalent the devs want a weapon or vehicle to be in the game.

Item should preferably be seen rarely on the battlefield = high price
Many people should use this item = low price

Since the Panther is argueably one of the best tanks in the medium tier class the price is relatively high to make sure not everyone is driving around in panthers all the time. Tiger I however is rather inferior to the other heavy tanks and thus cheap in comparison.

Merely speculation though...
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