Heroes & Generals

Heroes & Generals

SUMatt May 11, 2021 @ 5:47am
Similar games?
Is there a game like this but thtat isnt dying. Im not talking about post scriptom/hell let loose etc. A game with a progressive system like this, vehicles maybe?
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Apostol May 11, 2021 @ 6:30am 
There's none as far as I know. The only other option could be Enlisted, but its still in Alpha/Beta and its also made by Gaijin, so I suspect it to be become more P2W as time goes on.
SUMatt May 11, 2021 @ 6:33am 
Originally posted by Apostol:
P2W as time goes on.
thats there only way to go, pay to win :D
Your_White_Knight May 11, 2021 @ 7:13am 
Originally posted by SU | Matt:
Similar games?

Is there a game like this but thtat isnt dying. Im not talking about post scriptom/hell let loose etc. A game with a progressive system like this, vehicles maybe?

Not really... that's what makes H&G unique.

And no... it's still not "dying" for the 5,398th time...
SUMatt May 11, 2021 @ 7:15am 
for the past couple months the average playercount has dropped. -107, -235, -142, -175
Titix™ May 11, 2021 @ 7:29am 
Enlisted
KEK May 11, 2021 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by Your_White_Knight:
Originally posted by SU | Matt:
Similar games?

Is there a game like this but thtat isnt dying. Im not talking about post scriptom/hell let loose etc. A game with a progressive system like this, vehicles maybe?

Not really... that's what makes H&G unique.

And no... it's still not "dying" for the 5,398th time...
Hello H&G funboy, I hope you're enjoying playing the same thing over and over again.
Forsaken Wolf May 11, 2021 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by SU | Matt:
for the past couple months the average playercount has dropped. -107, -235, -142, -175
So, still an average of 3k which is more than enough for "20vs20" battles. People been screaming the game had been dying since 2016 yet here we are
Apostol May 11, 2021 @ 7:40am 
Originally posted by SU | Matt:
for the past couple months the average playercount has dropped. -107, -235, -142, -175
Should I assume CSGO is dying too?
https://steamcharts.com/app/730
last 4 months : -2,196.4, -85.4 , -17,581 , -13,262.9

Also, RIP tf2?
https://steamcharts.com/app/440

Also, some players are playing on the standalone version of the game, which has less bugs. This means that the actual number of players is higher than what steamcharts is telling you
Your_White_Knight May 11, 2021 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by Apostol:
Originally posted by SU | Matt:
for the past couple months the average playercount has dropped. -107, -235, -142, -175
Should I assume CSGO is dying too?
https://steamcharts.com/app/730
last 4 months : -2,196.4, -85.4 , -17,581 , -13,262.9

Also, RIP tf2?
https://steamcharts.com/app/440

Also, some players are playing on the standalone version of the game, which has less bugs. This means that the actual number of players is higher than what steamcharts is telling you

Agreed...

People love to overuse the "iT's DyInG!" way too much.... every game has a spike when it first starts and tapers off... no game has ever gone on indefinitely nor constantly gained players over time... none.

Side note:
Not only the "standalone" H&G launcher... but there's many different launchers, Epic Games has one too, https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/p/heroes-and-generals-wwii that also doesn't show how many players use it in SteamCharts either.
SUMatt May 11, 2021 @ 8:25am 
good point, dont get me wrong the only reason i wanted a new game like this is because i was worried its dying. Im redownloading it now. No need to judge and assume i want this game to die.... I looked at steam charts and seen 2k players and was like.... oof. Imma go back on it now
Your_White_Knight May 11, 2021 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by SU | Matt:
good point, dont get me wrong the only reason i wanted a new game like this is because i was worried its dying. Im redownloading it now. No need to judge and assume i want this game to die.... I looked at steam charts and seen 2k players and was like.... oof. Imma go back on it now

Understood... Apostol and I aren't "judging" you... we're just trying to explain, that's all.

Steam Charts can be misleading... and 2K players isn't a bad thing... H&G is usually around the "Top 200" games on Steam of the 50,361 games available in 2021, that's not too shabby... "Subnautica" has 2K players as well, I wouldn't call it a "dead game" either, lol.
https://steamcharts.com/top/p.9

Glad to see you try it again... if the Steam version gives you problems try the "Stand alone" version of the launcher off of H&G's home webpage ( some find it better ) and even if you don't like it afterwards... at least you tried and decided for yourself rather then just assume.

Good luck.
Azrael May 11, 2021 @ 8:42am 
4 years ago people wrote daily "The game is going to die any minute now". It still is around.

Wanna know why? Because there is no copy of H&G around, only games that come close (e.g. Planetside 2, but that is sci-fi and doesn't have an RTS part like H&G).

And Enlisted has entirely no meta level above the FPS level.
Blegh May 11, 2021 @ 8:50am 
Originally posted by Forsaken Wolf:
Originally posted by SU | Matt:
for the past couple months the average playercount has dropped. -107, -235, -142, -175
So, still an average of 3k which is more than enough for "20vs20" battles. People been screaming the game had been dying since 2016 yet here we are
World of tanks blitz, a mobile game ported to PC, has 10 times more players than Heroes and Generals has? A dedicated PC game? And yes, it is dying, just look at steam charts and go to all, it shows the entire timeline of the game. You can see the playercount spiked in August of 2016 and has been a slow decline ever since then. Also, if you scroll down, you can see the player gains and losses, it again proves that the game has been slowly losing players since August 2016
Azrael May 11, 2021 @ 8:52am 
Originally posted by bwcamp:
Originally posted by Forsaken Wolf:
So, still an average of 3k which is more than enough for "20vs20" battles. People been screaming the game had been dying since 2016 yet here we are
World of tanks blitz, a mobile game ported to PC, has 10 times more players than Heroes and Generals has? A dedicated PC game? And yes, it is dying, just look at steam charts and go to all, it shows the entire timeline of the game. You can see the playercount spiked in August of 2016 and has been a slow decline ever since then. Also, if you scroll down, you can see the player gains and losses, it again proves that the game has been slowly losing players since August 2016

Dude the game is on 2 distribution platforms and has a standalone launcher (which is the most stable of the 3 versions for whatever reason).

So there is a Steam version, an Epic Version and a Standalone version. But the Steam DB site only registers the players playing it through steam. That can fool you.
Apostol May 11, 2021 @ 9:20am 
Originally posted by bwcamp:
Originally posted by Forsaken Wolf:
So, still an average of 3k which is more than enough for "20vs20" battles. People been screaming the game had been dying since 2016 yet here we are
World of tanks blitz, a mobile game ported to PC, has 10 times more players than Heroes and Generals has? A dedicated PC game? And yes, it is dying, just look at steam charts and go to all, it shows the entire timeline of the game. You can see the playercount spiked in August of 2016 and has been a slow decline ever since then. Also, if you scroll down, you can see the player gains and losses, it again proves that the game has been slowly losing players since August 2016
That game has a lot of players because it's been advertised to hell and back. I was taking a ♥♥♥♥ and was getting bombarded by World of Tanks ads. Now tell me how many ads of H&G you're seeing. That's right, 0. For a game with no ads, no premium-only systems, it's doing awesome.
Also, you can see that the game doesn't have only 2000 players, it has more like 3000, if you check out the hourly-thing from steamcharts.
Also, every game is slowly dying. Some are dying faster, some are dying slower. This is still not a reason to stop playing it. I see that you're playing War Thunder quite a lot. Why play it? It will surely die in ~10-20 years, so it's a dying game.
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